Letter to a Major

#1
(I'm asking a quick question here, please save the p!ss-taking for other posts, I'm having a bad enough time as it is right now and I don't want to have to sift through crap to get the one simple answer I need).

I am in the TA, and I need to write a letter to my Battery Commander asking for a leave of absence due to a number of personal problems I currently have to sort.

How do I finish the letter? As in "yours sincerely", "yours faithfully", etc?

The BC knows I'm writing the letter, he knows all about the reasons for it, I just need to know what the formal way is of finishing such a letter?

Many thanks.
 
#2
watch_the_birdie said:
(I'm asking a quick question here, please save the p!ss-taking for other posts, I'm having a bad enough time as it is right now and I don't want to have to sift through crap to get the one simple answer I need).

I am in the TA, and I need to write a letter to my Battery Commander asking for a leave of absence due to a number of personal problems I currently have to sort.

How do I finish the letter? As in "yours sincerely", "yours faithfully", etc?

The BC knows I'm writing the letter, he knows all about the reasons for it, I just need to know what the formal way is of finishing such a letter?

Many thanks.
I remain, Sir/Ma'am, your obedient servant.
 
#3
Markintime said:
watch_the_birdie said:
(I'm asking a quick question here, please save the p!ss-taking for other posts, I'm having a bad enough time as it is right now and I don't want to have to sift through crap to get the one simple answer I need).

I am in the TA, and I need to write a letter to my Battery Commander asking for a leave of absence due to a number of personal problems I currently have to sort.

How do I finish the letter? As in "yours sincerely", "yours faithfully", etc?

The BC knows I'm writing the letter, he knows all about the reasons for it, I just need to know what the formal way is of finishing such a letter?

Many thanks.
I remain, Sir/Ma'am, your obedient servant.
No requirement for that formality unless you are structuring the entire letter that way. "Yours sincerely" will do fine.
 
#4
Markintime said:
watch_the_birdie said:
(I'm asking a quick question here, please save the p!ss-taking for other posts, I'm having a bad enough time as it is right now and I don't want to have to sift through crap to get the one simple answer I need).

I am in the TA, and I need to write a letter to my Battery Commander asking for a leave of absence due to a number of personal problems I currently have to sort.

How do I finish the letter? As in "yours sincerely", "yours faithfully", etc?

The BC knows I'm writing the letter, he knows all about the reasons for it, I just need to know what the formal way is of finishing such a letter?

Many thanks.
I remain, Sir/Ma'am, your obedient servant.
I thought the obediant servant bit was scrapped completly now, Something to do with people not being servants. (not that it bothers me what I write its just good to know the right way of doing it.)
 
#5
If you are low level enlisted filth asking for something:

I have the honour to be,
Sir,
your obedient servant.

sign
 
#6
in_the_cheapseats said:
Markintime said:
watch_the_birdie said:
(I'm asking a quick question here, please save the p!ss-taking for other posts, I'm having a bad enough time as it is right now and I don't want to have to sift through crap to get the one simple answer I need).

I am in the TA, and I need to write a letter to my Battery Commander asking for a leave of absence due to a number of personal problems I currently have to sort.

How do I finish the letter? As in "yours sincerely", "yours faithfully", etc?

The BC knows I'm writing the letter, he knows all about the reasons for it, I just need to know what the formal way is of finishing such a letter?

Many thanks.
I remain, Sir/Ma'am, your obedient servant.
No requirement for that formality unless you are structuring the entire letter that way. "Yours sincerely" will do fine.
He did ask for the formal way and presumably this letter may have to go higher, with BC recommendations, so formality will be required.
 
#7
Dear Sir/yours sincerely is perfectly OK. All that 'I have the honour, Sir, to remain your obedient servant' tosh went out years back.
 
#8
There's a whole raft of rules relating to letter writing but don't worry.

Defence Writing is bashed into regular officers, and made a black art by Staff Officers. For the remainder of the Army, its largely not a big deal particularly in personal correspondence.

Don't let it worry, or inhibit you. You are - I assume - not an officer ( you'd have been given a guide if you were ) and you're TA. So no dramas.

Sign it as you would any civvy letter - yours sincerely is fine.

Charlie
 
#9
I'm with MarkinTime, and would also recommend using 'Sir' as the salutation, although I am aware that JSP 101 has been dumbed down to better reflect current low standards, and does in fact commend the use of 'Yours faithfully/sincerely' etc.

This form of valediction might do if writing to a civilian, but is not appropriate within the military - better to put nothing at all than sign it off as if you were sending a memo to a polyester-suited sales manager, rahther than to somebody of substance.
 
#10
Markintime said:
I remain, Sir/Ma'am, your obedient servant....

He did ask for the formal way and presumably this letter may have to go higher, with BC recommendations, so formality will be required.
With respect, Markintime, a little bit of knowlege is a dangerous thing. You're referring to the Formal Letter laid out in old SD guides which has been discontinued officially, and remains only in paticularly stuffy regiments for particularly stuffy occassions.

I know you're trying to help, but a normal letter will be perfectly fine.

Charlie

Edited to add - In my opinion it has very little to do with "dumbing down" and a great deal to do with modernising. The old JSP had its roots in a very different era, with more complex attendant social deferences and affectations.

Having worked in efficient civilian firms I was impressed with the clarity of their communication by email and letter, sans formality. I worked for a large bank in which every piece of communication was larded with unnecessary jargon and over-complication. No suprises that it was not a well focussed and efficient organisation.

If a letter conveys its author's meaning, tone and practical implications clearly, accurately and fully, its fine. Couching it in out-moded courtesies isn't necessary.

For the purposes of what is basically a routine letter, civvy conventions ( with military ranks included ) will be fine.
 
#11
Markintime said:
in_the_cheapseats said:
Markintime said:
watch_the_birdie said:
(I'm asking a quick question here, please save the p!ss-taking for other posts, I'm having a bad enough time as it is right now and I don't want to have to sift through crap to get the one simple answer I need).

I am in the TA, and I need to write a letter to my Battery Commander asking for a leave of absence due to a number of personal problems I currently have to sort.

How do I finish the letter? As in "yours sincerely", "yours faithfully", etc?

The BC knows I'm writing the letter, he knows all about the reasons for it, I just need to know what the formal way is of finishing such a letter?

Many thanks.
I remain, Sir/Ma'am, your obedient servant.
No requirement for that formality unless you are structuring the entire letter that way. "Yours sincerely" will do fine.
He did ask for the formal way and presumably this letter may have to go higher, with BC recommendations, so formality will be required.
As has been pointed out, the formal way to finish his letter is a little different than the requirement for a structure of a formal letter (which again as pointed out, doesn't exist any more).

Yours sincerely will do and is correct in current defence writing standards. from that sad doc - JSP 101
18. Ending and signature block. If your letter begins ‘Dear name’, end with
‘Yours sincerely’. If you begin in any other way, end with ‘Yours faithfully’. If you
didn’t use a greeting, don’t use an ending. Sign the letter and add a signature
block that shows your initials and surname, military rank (or title for Civil
servants), and job title (unless this appears in the letter head):
J D Smith Ms J D Smith
Squadron Leader Appeals Supervisor
https://daep-hive.da.mod.uk/cgi-bin...on_1_0&HIVE_RET=ORG&HIVE_PROD=0&HIVE_REQ=2001
 
#12
Dilfor said:
Dear Sir/yours sincerely is perfectly OK. All that 'I have the honour, Sir, to remain your obedient servant' tosh went out years back.
Not quite

Dear Sir/Yours faithfully

Dear John/Yours sincerely


Edited for getting it 100% wrong.
 
#13
Just remember Sir is Faithful: and from there you can work out that a named contact must be sincerely
 
#14
Dilfor said:
Dear Sir/yours sincerely is perfectly OK. All that 'I have the honour, Sir, to remain your obedient servant' tosh went out years back.
It may well have, however erring on the side of formality is unlikely to do any harm. Being overly familiar is unlikely to do any good.

I would write the letter as formally as I know how. Especially if I wanted something.

Dumbing down is fine for prime-time TV, not a good idea in formal letter writing.
 
#16
watch_the_birdie said:
(I'm asking a quick question here, please save the p!ss-taking for other posts, I'm having a bad enough time as it is right now and I don't want to have to sift through crap to get the one simple answer I need).

I am in the TA, and I need to write a letter to my Battery Commander asking for a leave of absence due to a number of personal problems I currently have to sort.

How do I finish the letter? As in "yours sincerely", "yours faithfully", etc?

The BC knows I'm writing the letter, he knows all about the reasons for it, I just need to know what the formal way is of finishing such a letter?

Many thanks.
Your Brother In The Blood of Christ ?
 
#17
Unless your BC is aged 512, then I suspect he won't give a flying feck how you structure your letter*, but will just be pleased that you actually wrote to him, thus wrapping up some tedious administration without any additional ado.**

(*unless you are one of his captains, I suppose)

(**always avoid unnecessary ado. Ado costs lives
)
 
#18
Thank you for your helpful replies.

I will go with "yours faithfully". As there is a bit of confusion over it anyway, I'm sure he won't notice if I put in something that maybe slightly incorrect. Especially when it is the main body of the letter that matters most.

right-grumpy said:
If you are low level enlisted filth
Indeed, I am a gunner. Oh, the shame of it!
 
#19
Personal Letters.
The choice of salutation in a personal letter depends on the relative ranks or grades of the writer and addressee and how well they know each other. If you are writing to an equal or junior that you know well, use the recipient’s forename or ‘nickname’. If you are writing to an equal or junior that you do not know well, use the format ‘Dear Squadron Leader Bloggs’. This format is also recommended when writing to a superior, eg ‘Dear Colonel Franks’ or ‘Dear Mrs Smith’ (and use the generic rank for military officers; eg refer to the rank of air vice-marshal or rear admiral as ‘Air Marshal’ or ‘Admiral’ respectively). The valediction is a matter of personal choice but ‘Yours sincerely’ is safe and recommended.
 
#20
watch_the_birdie said:
Thank you for your helpful replies.

I will go with "yours faithfully". As there is a bit of confusion over it anyway, I'm sure he won't notice if I put in something that maybe slightly incorrect. Especially when it is the main body of the letter that matters most.

right-grumpy said:
If you are low level enlisted filth
Indeed, I am a gunner. Oh, the shame of it!
In that case just end it

Catch you l8r dude
 

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