Let Apple track you or youre barred from iTunes

#1
I was contemplating putting this into computers section, but when taken into account with Googles accidental hoovering of wifi data it seems more apt in here.

According to this LA Times tech blog Apple is now asking users to give them access to your GPS location which they plan to link into their new ad system. General idea seems to be to look at where you are and send you ad relevant to stores in that area including promotions. As much as they say the data is anonymous it still shares the data with third parties and, most importantly, if you dont let them have it they wont let you access iTunes.

So it raises the scary question of just how much data private companies, especially ones with such access to our day to day lives, hold on us and what safe guards are in place. I highlighted on here the issue of 192.com publishing National Record Office records with limited protection for the public. But the Google WiFi issue was on a larger more public scale to make government and the average public take note. Can governments enforce better standards with an emphasis on the individuals rights, or will it be a user outcry to force self regulation?
 
#2
The way I see it, the cnuts are going to be sending me ads anyway. They might as well be ads I might find useful.
 
#3
Don't use itunes is the simple answer.

Works for me.
 
#7
roadster280 said:
You're being a bit disingenuous. Only the latest version of iTunes has this change, as it offers extra support for the new phone and OS version. If you don't want these features, don't buy/upgrade, and stick with the previous version and decline to accept the changes.

If the argument is a more general one, then the title of the thread is a bit misleading. In general though, while I don't particularly like it, it's a bit like trying to buy an iphone/blackberry/Nokia gizmo without a data plan. Difficult to do, and self defeating in that it diminishes the utility of the device. What's wrong with the manufacturer collecting data to beat the network operator with, eg poor coverage or data speeds at certain geographical pinch points, eg airports, train stations etc? Or a 'help button" that sends the cavalry when you've broken down, and don't have the street name or mile marker on the motorway?

I agree though, it would be wrong for a phone track to your visits to adult video cabins, and sends you targetted gay sex ads. That said, Windows (indeed Microsoft in general) is in decline, so perhaps they'll leave that one on the shelf. Mind you, they've got form for some dumbass commercial moves.

Hmm badly put my point across, sorry. I dont have a problem with the location data being collecting in that i cant see Apple using to malicious ends. As you say there are plenty of great uses for the data beyond just Apple. What i dont agree with is the idea of them barring people from iTunes who do not agree with them doing so. Yes there are ways around it but the principle still stands. Also what use might third parties find for the data? At present it is only available to trusted partners, but what about in future? Information is cheap, easy to get and easier to share and at present very little being done to keep it i check.
 
#8
Markintime said:
People will only do what others will let them. If you acquiesce to their wishes then you give tacit approval to their right to make the move in the first place.
Having recently spent several hundred quid on an iPhone, I feel somewhat cheated to find that I can't use it properly without my location being tracked, recorded and shared with third parties.

Though I can't fault the business model; for such a trendy, green and 'indie' brand, it's hardly ethical.
 
#9
A good choice is not to buy anything made by Apple.
 
#10
A fair price for great products, and that philosophy has got them to the top.
That and a willingness to freeze-out any third parties who are not 'approved' by the mighty apple, oh and short specing to keep out the competition - no USBs on Ipads because it's too difficult - Are we expected to believe that?
 
#12
roadster280 said:
Biscuits_Brown said:
A good choice is not to buy anything made by Apple.
Fortunately a minority view; I don't understand why one would want to marginalise oneself like that. Apple's willingness to push the boundaries of what is possible has revolutionalised several markets. In doing so, it has grown to be larger than Microsoft. Apple's products aren't cheap, but neither are they ridiculously expensive. A fair price for great products, and that philosophy has got them to the top.
Hello Mr Jobs.Obligatory.
 
#13
Maple said:
A fair price for great products, and that philosophy has got them to the top.
That and a willingness to freeze-out any third parties who are not 'approved' by the mighty apple, oh and short specing to keep out the competition - no USBs on Ipads because it's too difficult - Are we expected to believe that?
If you don't like it, don't buy it. No one's made it compulsory yet...
 

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#14
Missus is getting me the new Gen4 phone next week - me Father's Day prezzie. I've always liked Apple products and ingenuity, and so long as they avoid Google-style tactics, I'll keep getting their goods.
 
#16
roadster280 said:
That doesn't make sense to me. If you've recently bought an iPhone, it will be a 3GS. It will work fine with the version of iTunes then current. More recent versions will have features that require an update to the licensing terms. Just don't accept them, and you have lost nothing. The 3GS didn't come with iOS4, so you haven't lost anything there.

It's a bit like saying you don't want to accept Airline A's fuel surcharge, so you'll go with Airline B, but you don't like the fact that Airline B doesn't let you choose your seats like Airline A does. Make your choice is what it comes down to.
Again, I'm not knocking them - they took my money fair and square. I just feel a bit ripped off that I'm being given the choice of sticking with outdated software or signing away my right to privacy.

It's more like booking with the slightly more expensive Airline A because they're offering free upgrades to first class - and finding out after boarding that you have to let Claud and Giorgio double-team you in the bogs to qualify.
 
#17
If you don't like it, don't buy it. No one's made it compulsory yet...
So if your car came without ABS and someone pointed it the tec was cheap, available off the shelf and would greatly enhance the vehicle you'd say 'do not question the manufacturer, if you don't like it do without' rather than think it might be a good idea to fit it as standard and improve the product?
 
#19
They're only doing a similar thing to what the credit card companies have been doing to you for years. Every time you make a purchase using the card the transaction is used as demographic data and you are also pigeon holed by what you buy and where you buy it. You, specifically, and your social grouping are targeted by that information gathered. Smart ads in the likes of ARRSE are a wee bit along the same lines.


So all you moaners, cut up your cards.
 
#20
Boney2728 said:
The only Apple i like is in a bottle called "Green Goblin"..
I stumbled upon that and like it too but it is regrettably not as easy to find as it deserves to be.
 

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