Man, this forum is getting dull. We need more technical stuff or the other Corps will think all we do is bitch-slap each other about trades. I was thinking to myself (sad as it seems) that it's disppointing how little serious progress we have made in migrating to all-IP networks in our mob. I watched three RAF bods recently spending about 15 mins jacking up a VTC and thought surely there's got to be a better way of engineering stuff. They were doing what I saw lads in 30 Sigs doing nearly 10 years ago and with a virtually identical system! There are a number of dodgy civvy companies (the usual cartels) who make an awful lot of money ripping off MoD plc with their over-complicated but architecturally archaic solutions that require vast amounts of contractor support. Although we are often hamstrung by the system, I think that we often don't help ourselves and it's just far too easy to accept the so-called professional opinion of these big companies. It's about time that the military regained the initiative! (yeah I know that's not going to happen - there's too much money in contractors prologing the agony). Anyway, enough rabble-rousing. I caught sight of a piece of kit called a Packetband and wondered if anyone has ever encountered it? It looks like a very nice little bit of kit - defo ripe for an in-house eqpt trial and (from the link) it looks like it is probably in-service somewhere, but I don't know where. I don't want to reinvent the wheel - if anyone can tip me the nod I'd be grateful. I'll share my inevitable OBE with you.