Lebanon - how much is this sh1t costing us??

#1
Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of 'saving' people who go ON HOLIDAY to bloody Beirut, there are clearly some British nationals in the Middle East who need the help of HMG. My main question is, how much is this costing the taxpayer, and is it coming out of the defence budget? Anyhow, Bliar should get a bit of backbone and bill Tel Aviv. It is only because of this disproportionate response (which no one can deny it is now) that is putting British Citizens (albeit some dopey or pinko do-gooding ones) in danger, why should we pay??
 
#2
I think you will find that the Foreign Office bill those who are rescued for the priviledge of a ride on a Royal Navy warship :)
 
#4
barbarasson said:
Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of 'saving' people who go ON HOLIDAY to bloody Beirut, there are clearly some British nationals in the Middle East who need the help of HMG. My main question is, how much is this costing the taxpayer, and is it coming out of the defence budget? Anyhow, Bliar should get a bit of backbone and bill Tel Aviv. It is only because of this disproportionate response (which no one can deny it is now) that is putting British Citizens (albeit some dopey or pinko do-gooding ones) in danger, why should we pay??
Until the Israelis bombed it Beruit was starting to be a good business and holiday destination. It should be a country with a lot going for it. They have rebuilt their economy and infrastructure after decades of civil war. Everyone I know who has been there recently spoke very highly about the quality of night life. There should be no reason for people not to go there.

The neighbopurs should not be bombing its infrastructure.
 
#5
Spoken to my Consular Section staff and as off yet, no dicision has been made to Bill British Nationals. Point of interest though, all the Americans are being Billed for their evacuation by Uncle Sam.
 
#6
Suggestion is nationals will be billed £300
 
#7
Should money be the first thing that crosses our minds when UK citizens carrying valid passports are pulled out of a sh+thole

It has been reported that some have been arrogant ignorant demanding etc etc ok but I suggest you give yourself a couple of days to pack your entire life away and move your family to safety under the threat of what appears to be a warzone

It has also been pointed out that the don't pay UK tax SO FECKING WHAT they are UK citizens

How much tax haven't they paid? how do they benefit UK plc? you can only generalise about this, what about the consul staff should we bill them etc etc etc etc

People don't seem to appreciate that UK plc ain't some completely isolated, independent country with no requirements for contact or trade with other nations. These are UK passport holders

So the Navy is pulling out these people, I would suggest thats its job, I doubt many matelots are moaning about non tax payers, getting pinged for a sh+t job

Who is firing up these sad and what appear to be bitter arguements

I can understand anger at having to put troops at risk to rescue a single stupid christian peace worker who was foolish enough to ignore multiple warnings about his safety but this is a bit different

I would suggest that there may have been a similar number of British passport holders in need of the Mobs help in 1982 no one was squealing then
 
#8
Gimp

totally with you. I was watching today as some friggin expat family was boarding the navy ship and they moaned about everything and nothing being their fault.

So why take a job in the Lebanon - A FOOKIN BIG TAX FREE SALARY - THATS WHY!!!

So these tossers go to what is a volatile place, they then dont pay a quid in tax, rake loads of dosh coz they are in an undesirable zone and then expect the UK Govt TAX PAYERs to bail them out!! I boils my piss.

They should have a PO standing on the gangway with a clipboard and he asks if they pay NI & Tax, if not, then f*ck off and lie in the bed you made :twisted:
 
#9
bullshit said:
Gimp

totally with you. I was watching today as some friggin expat family was boarding the navy ship and they moaned about everything and nothing being their fault.

So why take a job in the Lebanon - A FOOKIN BIG TAX FREE SALARY - THATS WHY!!!

So these tossers go to what is a volatile place, they then dont pay a quid in tax, rake loads of dosh coz they are in an undesirable zone and then expect the UK Govt TAX PAYERs to bail them out!! I boils my urine.

They should have a PO standing on the gangway with a clipboard and he asks if they pay NI & Tax, if not, then f*ck off and lie in the bed you made :twisted:
I think that you need to re-read the post you are 'agreeing' with. And to tell the truth, alot of the posts on here sound like nothing more than pure, childish jealousy.
 
#10
BS either you are been ironic or you patently misunderstood my post

I'm going with the second option, I'll concentrate and put down my thoughts a bit clearer next time
 
#11
Bullsh*t

Totally agree.

The majority these expats live life as if we were still an empire - I see it everyday, with their third-world maids, nannies and dog walkers. Where are their house staff that they pay sh*t wages too now, no doubt cowering in the masters wine cellar somewhere with stict instructions not to touch a drop. These feckers are living in the days of the Raj. Let the F*ckers pay with their Platinum Cards.
 
#12
Yes, there seems something wrong here. If I choose to work and live in a country/area that is unstable[sic] and live on a gigantic tax free wage (from this home country) should not i take responsibility, insurance etc. for my wellbeing and that of my family. Why should people be whinging about how awful the support/evacuation from our government has been. I'll bet that they all lived the life of Riley before this particular piece of odure hit the air conditioning system! And, as for charging them for their flights etc, just how much does it cost to divert a destoyer, all the helicopter support etc. to get the buggers out? I'm sure that most of them probably have paid to fly home (this country?) prior to this just as the fancy took them! Whilst in ranting mode why are all the sailors wearing bl**dy US navy style baseball caps? This used to be the ROYAL NAVY! OK Calmed down now1
 
#13
There seems to be an emerging principle here that Her Majesty's Government and, therefore, Her Majesty's Armed Forces, should only ever step in to rescue those of Her Majesty's subjects who certain ARRSERs don't have personal gripes with.

Rather a dangerous principle, to my mind.
 
#14
pipthedog said:
Bullsh*t

Totally agree.

The majority these expats live life as if we were still an empire - I see it everyday [and where the fck are you - Bridlington?] with their third-world maids, nannies and dog walkers. Where are their house staff that they pay sh*t wages too now, no doubt cowering in the masters wine cellar somewhere with stict instructions not to touch a drop. These feckers are living in the days of the Raj. Let the F*ckers pay with their Platinum Cards.
It's late and I've had a few beers but that doesn't dilute my next comment "you sir are a fckng cnt" (please add vowels for full effect at the latter end of my comment).

Do not talk absolute b*ll*cks. I've lived overseas now for 5 years as an expat, first in Thailand and now in Singapore. My youngest daughter was born here in S'pore and is Brit passport holder, as she would be since er indoors is like me from the UK. We live overseas because of the nature of my job & don't flap at me about maids etc. (for the record as a maid they typically earn 3 times the ave. wage of a professional worker in Manila etc). There is an old expression "when in rome..." We are not living in the days of the raj, we're taling economics & the locals are far worse than we are on this issue - which is why we get blamed for lifting the basic wage! Next time you open your gob talk sense or shut the fcuk up!

lancslad

PS - the fact I'm sipping a G&T before nipping out for a spot of shagging the house maid/shooting any passing locals is highly irrelevant :D
 
#15
pipthedog said:
Spoken to my Consular Section staff and as off yet, no dicision has been made to Bill British Nationals. Point of interest though, all the Americans are being Billed for their evacuation by Uncle Sam.
No they're not. Condi nixed that idea. Rightly, IMHO.

Does it mean ANYTHING to be a UK citizen? Do our taxes count for NOTHING? We pay for the FCO and the MoD for, inter alia, precicely this kind of eventuality.
 
#16
I don't think I've seen such a nasty little series of venomous attacks on other British subjects on Arrse outside the normal lunatics on the Muslim threads.

I wonder how many of these Lebanese British freeloaders who obviously went to the Lebanon for a cheap holiday , and who absolutely deserved to be caught up in a very sudden war are thinking "Well damn me for choosing the Lebanon for a holiday where all my relatives live, and which was calm as hell last week"

And all those other Lebanese-British freeloaders who've gone back to help re-build the country of their ancestry , because they feel they should. You know, the one's whose taxes contribute to our Armed Forces.

What about all those non-Lebanese British parasites working in construction , tourism, retail all striving to get the Lebanon back to what it once was? Nothing but feckless fools trying to re-live the Raj? Ditto their taxes.

Strange, when my family did that , the last thing on Dad's mind was an extended holiday lording it over former colonials. His brief was "Get the Sugar Factories back in production"

Yes it was a nice place to grow up, and we kids benefitted , but that all adds to life.

If someone is standing on a beach waving a BRITISH (Her Brittanic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests...) passport , we are honour and duty bound to extract them.

Or should we leave some of you moaning spiteful individuals on a beach with your kids asking when the bombing is going to stop?
 
#17
Interestingly, no one has cottoned on to my, obviously far too subtle, initial comments. Although criticising some of those (who in my opinion ARE idiots for going to the Lebenon for a holiday), I felt I was clearly directing my comments against Israel, and the fact we are having to protect British citizens from a country with whom I suppose we are allies, in a way. However, seeing how hot and bothered this one has got you lot, I am rather glad I posted it.
 
#18
Well put PTP

Tried to, but couldn't put it any clearer in my post, Hence BS misunderstanding completly

A very strange set of attitudes appearing appears to stem from some naive stereotypical view of British expats and what appears to be financial jealousy

Interesting to see what their views are on other hot topics

Very bitter, very twisted and very small minded no doubt
 
#19
barbarasson said:
Interestingly, no one has cottoned on to my, obviously far too subtle, initial comments. Although criticising some of those (who in my opinion ARE idiots for going to the Lebenon for a holiday), I felt I was clearly directing my comments against Israel, and the fact we are having to protect British citizens from a country with whom I suppose we are allies, in a way. However, seeing how hot and bothered this one has got you lot, I am rather glad I posted it.
When the first RN warship went in to pick up the first load of nationals, the BBC reported that the Israelis had (oh so kindly) granted them a window in which the ship's security could be guaranteed.

This perplexed me somewhat. If some Hizbollah rocket team had missed their ship identification classes, then there was nothing Israel could do about it. So I presume that Israel was guaranteeing that THEY wouldn't attack our ship. Which leads me to ask what would have happened if the ship had outstayed her welcome. Would Israel have attacked it?

Some ally.

sm.
 
#20
thegimp said:
Very bitter, very twisted and very small minded no doubt
Well they are Arrsers......

To change topic slightly, what would happen to a (notional) British CO if his battlegroup reacted in the same way to the kidnap of 2 soldiers in, for instance, Basra?
 

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