leaving the army

#1
Hi just thought i would ask if any one has a copy of a standard letter that i need to write to leave phase one training? Regards
 

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#3
I have to ask, why do you want to leave ? One of the hardest parts is taking the courage to walk through the gate in the first place - don't quit now !

If you having problems or there are issues at home talk to your platoon staff.
 
#4
Mate, phase 1 can be pants but it is all just a big game that every one of us has had to play at some point. Give it some thought as you may well be not let back in if you do get out.

Im an ex trg instructor, if you want any more advice PM me.
 
#5
it has nothing to do with the army or me struggling far from it i just made the mistake of the fact i am a very good civvy chef, and i joined the army to do a gun ho job to what end? I will do it for x amount of time then come out with nothing i can use in civvy street. And before you say be a army chef i dont fancy cooking beans for the rest of my life :/
 
#6
Screw_The_Nut said:
Weak individual....
STN - do you know the background to this request? Do you have any idea about this individuals character? No?...then perhaps it would be a good idea to find out before making such a crass statement.

BA has said it takes a great deal of courage and effort to walk through the gates in the first place. At least this individual has tried, sometimes it takes a greater level of courage to try something and be prepared to admit that it is not right for you or you for it.

That said - Chef, do as BA has suggested and speak to people before you make a final decision. It was never going to be easy, take ALL the help you can get before deciding to give it up.
 
#7
Chef88 said:
it has nothing to do with the army or me struggling far from it i just made the mistake of the fact i am a very good civvy chef, and i joined the army to do a gun ho job to what end? I will do it for x amount of time then come out with nothing i can use in civvy street. And before you say be a army chef i dont fancy cooking beans for the rest of my life :/
Call me picky but if you jack it in now then surely cooking beans is exactly what you'll be doing for the rest of your life?

I may be a fat, middle aged IT guy now but as someones signature on this site says: "I may be a has-been but its better than being a never has-been"
 
#8
this is where i have made a mistake i have been lucky and worked all over london and the UK i worked in the goring, i worked for one of gordon ramsay's ex head chef's i have a good cv so i wouldnt cook beans for the rest of my life and i wouldnt allow my self to end up in some cafe cooking beans on toast to order!
 
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#9
Cheer up (I've actually been waiting for someone to pull me up on that comment).

Chef88 - talk to anyone who has served in the forces before, or still serving now. Nobody would change it for the world, even guys who didnt have such a good time of it say they would still do it now if their time came round again.

If you are a good chef, then thats a qualification you can pick up again when you leave. Why not enjoy your four years in the army, and if you still feel like leaving then do so. I guarantee you will make great friends, improve your whole outlook on life and your own character, and do a job you can be really proud of. Then you can tell your chef mates on civvie street all your war stories at your next kitchen.
 
#10
at phase 1 you have to write a letter?

will not an interview with pl oc suffice?
 
#12
Chef88 said:
this is where i have made a mistake i have been lucky and worked all over london and the UK i worked in the goring, i worked for one of gordon ramsay's ex head chef's i have a good cv so i wouldnt cook beans for the rest of my life and i wouldnt allow my self to end up in some cafe cooking beans on toast to order!
Thats great, you'll have the birds falling over themselves with chat-up lines like that...... :roll:

If you get home from your shift at the eatery to find your missus being spit roasted by a couple of her majesty's finest don't say I didn't warn you.

have a nice uneventful life.
 
#13
Chef88 said:
no we have to hand in a letter :/ i will get a copy back on base thanks for all the advice ladies and gents!
Should be able to get a copy at the job centre, just walk in and shout " are there any spineless losers in here who bailed out of army training at phase one ?"

I know what this is, its the post chrimbo blues, you've been home and seen your mates and their still calling you a cnut for signing up, well let me tell you sonny boy in the army you'll be a winner !! D' you hear me ?? A winner, a legend with the ladies and a member of the best damn regiment in the world. Don't bail now you did the hardest part coming to us for advice, and that advice is breath deep, man up and soldier on.




God if I was ten years younger.... 8O
 
#14
#15
Don’t bail out,

Seriously, you will have sleepless nights with all the 'would of, could of, should of' questions you'll ask yourself.

Take the Army for what it is, a fantastic place to learn huge amounts about yourself, in many different environments in very testing circumstances (and gat paid relatively decent money for it)

You've achieved a lot by getting in, you've achieved a lot by getting this far, however, Phase 1 is not the real Army or anything like, give the real thing a crack.

Even if you decide you want to continue your civilian profession after 4 years, you'll have such a wider experience of life to draw from, to be honest, with the good light that the forces are being shown in now, (H4H, The Military Awards etc) your time in will stand you in much better stead for a successful civilian career.

All the serving and ex serving soldiers on this site will urge you to stay in, being in the Army is a fantastic opportunity that most civvies will never understand. Basically to have a damn good laugh, meet friends who will do anything for you, travel and see different parts of the world on exercise and on operations and get paid to do it.

Its an exclusive club, don’t miss out on it.



If that doesn’t make you think twice, man the fuck up
 

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#17
Chef88 said:
it has nothing to do with the army or me struggling far from it i just made the mistake of the fact i am a very good civvy chef, and i joined the army to do a gun ho job to what end? I will do it for x amount of time then come out with nothing i can use in civvy street. And before you say be a army chef I dont fancy cooking beans for the rest of my life :/
Ref Army Chefs - and I am not one - they can cook a good deal more than beans. Notwithstanding the basics they produce (and I can tell you now, your average fry up becomes a work of art when produced by a chef in the middle of a freezing cold, piss wet hell hole), some of the food they produce for Regimental Dinner Nights, Summer Balls, Christmas Parties and so on is outstanding. I have eaten in some very fine restuarants in the the world and whilst Army chefs might not be at the 5* level (and I would argue some of them are or could be), I can assure you that I have been privileged to eat food of a very high standard. If you are as good as you say you are - then our chefs could learn from you.

Other than that, the most cogent argument to persuade you to stay should be the fact that you will always have a list of never-ending, nagging questions in the back of your mind if you quit... What if ? Was I good enough to have gottten through ? How would my life be now if I had served ? If you can live with that, good luck to you, but I predict downstream you will regret not seeing this through, and you will always regret it.

Golf_one-One sums it up best, "Its an exclusive club, don’t miss out on it." Really, the hard part, as I have said, is walking through the gate in the first place. Basic Training is a game we all have to play to get into the Club. Just play it and see where you end up. In four years you will be older, wiser, have a bucket load of great memories and you will be a better man for the experience.

I wish you luck.
 
#18
If Chef88 has cooked where he says that he has cooked, then I agree with him, and joining the Army would be a mistake.
 
#19
Chef88 said:
it has nothing to do with the army or me struggling far from it i just made the mistake of the fact i am a very good civvy chef, and i joined the army to do a gun ho job to what end? I will do it for x amount of time then come out with nothing i can use in civvy street. And before you say be a army chef i dont fancy cooking beans for the rest of my life :/
You will still have your chef quals when you come out plus you will have proved to any prospective employer that you are self-disciplined and can work as part of a team in hostile conditions.
Depending on what you do in the Army you could come out with driving licences or computer/technical/clerical skills. There are many things you can do in the Army that will stand you in good stead, give it a try.
 
#20
Just leave, alhough a whinging squaddie is a happy squaddie I am sure that the fact that you are too good for this will stay with you for the four years so your best bet is to jack it in now and walk away.


Unless you can think back to the reasons why you wanted to join in the first place and then think to yourself "What could I be missing out on". You don't need to become a grunt or a chef why not add another string to your bow maybe get yourself a fall back plan on the go and have a bloody good time whilst your at it. You will never find another job in the world where you will rely on so many people or be relied upon by so many.


The choice is yours and yours alone. Be sure you make the right one and good luck with whatever it is!!
 
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