Leathermans for all


Would the wearing of them be compulsory?  Just with CS 95 or also with barrack dress/service dress.

We could follow the lead of the RAF Regt - apparently it is now in their dress regs.


RAF Regiment, dress Regs ??? Is there such an animal?, surely 'dress regs' would suggest a reasonably organised, disciplined force, I can't recall any of these words springing to mind when considering the Airfield Guard Force.      

( Yes I know I am on the wrong Board to be slagging the 'Crabs' but Hey, no opportunity should be wasted )


in reply to mr ash plants comments maybe we should get a gerber instead after all we wouldnt want to be tarred with the same brush as crab air
We certainly couldn't issue Gerbers, the Household (appliance) Division would have us scotch-brighting them silver...


Leathermans should be issued to all soldiers, regardless of rank, unit etc.  They are extremely useful and are the only true 'force multi-plier'  ;)


Bluenugget - good call.  

We had a DS on Div 2 who was known as leatherman because he was a complete tool!


Red 5 - you legend. Force multi-plier, utterly brilliant...
Nope its got to be Gerber its got little springy things and a can opener that works backwards!
and a whole host of other pointless stuff on it.

But the knife is bloody sharp!


War Hero
I saw the Canadians in Bosnia in 96 and they all got issued a Gerber, except for VMs and Engrs who got a Super Leatherman. I figure giving everyone a Leatherman would be cheaper than all the money spent on trying to make the SA80 into a weapon instead of just replacing it with something good.
Yes we should all get them. Mind you at my last unit the RSM deemed we werent allowed to use them, or even have them on our belts!! Proper tools for the job, yeah right obviously never had an UBRE start gushing,"hang Sarge just got to find the 17mil spanner, it's here somewhere"

Mind you Techs should have the blades removed, cant trust the little buggers with sharp things!! :p
Given that size is of obvious and paramount importance, we should just have the SA80 bayonet permanently attached to ones belt - after all it has a sensible saw and useful wire cutters and a thing for sharpening other things on


War Hero
The bayonet also has the ability to  bend (very useful for going round corners!), shatter and it has the cutting ability of a plank of wood!


According tothe press the bayonet doesn't even fit on the new rifle


War Hero
I knew they could find something else to improve about it. Biggest waste of a tin opener since crisps got crinckly ;D
The Leatherman is a piece of kit I would recommend to any soldier, just a pity that it is so expensive to buy in the UK at approx £50 compared to the same model costing approx £25 in a PX.

As for wearing it with either a stable or green belt, my unit allows either as the tool is a necessary piece of kit wherever you work.

I think it should be standard issue.  Of course budgets would not allow for it, unless we re-use the metal from all the scraped tanks we no longer need.


Yes, all very nice.   Leatherman is an American-made item.  Let's just whiz it through the UK procurement cycle shall we:

1.  Identfy the need for a man-portable, every-man-issue, multi-function tool.

2.  Wait five years.

3.  Call in tenders from all major manufacturers: Leatherman, Gerber, Eddie Bauer, SOG.

4.  Identify all the good bits from them, and then employ a British Company to make it at a third of the cost of a "real" one.

5. Give it a name to get around copy-right, and indicate when you expect it to come into service.....how about "Tool, Operational, Small, Size   2010"  
TOSS 2010.

6.   Trial it to destruction with the girl-guides, and then put it on general issue sometime around 2020.

7.   Press get wind of the fact than the tin-opener gadget jams in...well.... jam tins, and rumours abound that the whole issue was made of depleted uranium.

8.  MOD denies faults with TOSS 2010, and insists that soldiers don't like jam, and have always glowed in the dark.

9.   Army stuck with duff kit that it doesn't want.

10.   Squaddies continue to buy their own kit.

{pauses for breath}   ....I think that about covers it.
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