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Laurence Fox - Political ambitions


Looks sound to me.

Kurten was on TalkRadio this morning, 2 hours in:


I fear they may have sunk themselves TBH:

The draconian coronavirus laws and regulations implemented for a disease no worse than a bad flu season are an egregious attack on our civil liberties. The Heritage Party opposes arbitrary restrictions on citizens and businesses, and will dismantle the legal framework which gives the government the powers to erode our liberty in this manner ever again.
 
Harrow...

Oh the irony. There was a documentary a few years back about Harrow and a far higher number of pupils than would reflect the wider population were BAME. I thought that might just be selective editing but then attended an event at Eton where if anything, it was even more pronounced.
 
Ok, I've read through the Heritage party's manifesto. While there is some good stuff in there, especially the bonus points for linking immigration numbers to Food security/ service load and housing, there's some stuff I find a bit worrying. As well as the CV19 comment above we have the following:

The technology now exists to create a dystopian 24-7 surveillance state where everyone and everything can be monitored continuously. It is therefore more important than ever to guarantee liberty and ensure that individuals continue to have the right to privacy and anonymity. The law should ensure that people can live a private life by default unless they choose otherwise. Personal information should not be held without consent.

Never read the DPA have we? Also, that not holding any data thing would it apply to the police?

There have been over 9 million abortions carried out in the UK since the Abortion Act in 1967, and now there are over 200,000 abortions per year in the UK. Unborn children are children. In every abortion a human life is ended.

We will actively seek to reduce the number of abortions in the UK by tightening the criteria for abortion, providing mothers with help, support and alternatives such as adoption, and encouraging personal responsibility to avoid the need for abortions in the first place.

That's a big no from me. Seems almost religiously motivated?

The Heritage Party is also concerned for the sanctity of life of older and disabled people. The elderly have as much right to healthcare as the young, and they should not be made to feel a burden. We shall emphasise the Hippocratic Oath and stop nihilistic elements in the medical profession from wreaking destruction. ‘Do not resuscitate’ orders are liberally applied in hospitals, often without consent. We will oppose any legalisation of assisted suicide, or any change to the medical code of conduct allowing arbitrary deprivation of treatment.

A DNR without consent is called Murder, is it not? Or are we back to "death panels"? Pretty sure there's more than a few organisations who would eagerly hear of such activates, if you have the evidence to support it?

There must never be a repeat of the traumatic cases of Alfie Evans and Charlie Gard, where these children were denied treatment offered to them because of the decisions of activist magistrates and medical practitioners who refused to allow these children to receive treatments offered by other hospitals. No medical practitioner or magistrate should have a right to decide to block a patient from receiving an offer of a potentially life-saving treatment, over and above the express wishes of the next-of-kin, especially the parents or spouse of a patient.
 
Ok, I've read through the Heritage party's manifesto. While there is some good stuff in there, especially the bonus points for linking immigration numbers to Food security/ service load and housing, there's some stuff I find a bit worrying. As well as the CV19 comment above we have the following:



Never read the DPA have we? Also, that not holding any data thing would it apply to the police?



That's a big no from me. Seems almost religiously motivated?



A DNR without consent is called Murder, is it not? Or are we back to "death panels"? Pretty sure there's more than a few organisations who would eagerly hear of such activates, if you have the evidence to support it?


They sound ok to me.
 

Yokel

LE
Yesterday, Laurence Fox was interviewed (again) by Peter Whittle for The New Culture Forum, and talked about his reasons for starting a new party. To me he sounds very much a Centrist.


I would love him to bring someone like Esther Krukue or Inaya Folarin Iman onboard - that would wrongfoot many critics.
 
Yesterday, Laurence Fox was interviewed (again) by Peter Whittle for The New Culture Forum, and talked about his reasons for starting a new party. To me he sounds very much a Centrist.


I would love him to bring someone like Esther Krukue or Inaya Folarin Iman onboard - that would wrongfoot many critics.
Not to distract from Fox's presentation, but I find Whittle irritating and distractive in himself; there's a good reason why people like Joe Rogan have massive viewing figures.

Fox is very credible. Naturally, thinking less than socialist ideas, he's labelled as a Nazi - wot a bastard! I wanted to vote for sensible people at the last General Election, but had to fall back on the DUP's Wee Jeffrey in the absence of anyone else of my mindset; would that Fox were able to invade the Emerald Isle.
 
Laurence Fox and Nigel Farage both start from separate positions, but appear to have many similar views on some stuff eg shutting down debate, attacks on our Institutions.

Is a new Party going to enhance or dilute the effect UKIP then Brexit Party has had on British politics, politicians and our way of life, I wonder ?

I have no idea - but I do like what Laurence Fox says, and how he says it.
 

Cold_Collation

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Book Reviewer
Laurence Fox and Nigel Farage both start from separate positions, but appear to have many similar views on some stuff eg shutting down debate, attacks on our Institutions.

Is a new Party going to enhance or dilute the effect UKIP then Brexit Party has had on British politics, politicians and our way of life, I wonder ?

I have no idea - but I do like what Laurence Fox says, and how he says it.
Agreed. However, the difference is that UKIP/BP were one-trick ponies. Fox's standpoint seems to be rather wider.
 
Agreed. However, the difference is that UKIP/BP were one-trick ponies. Fox's standpoint seems to be rather wider.

UKIP and Brexit most certainly were one trick Parties , but just recently Farage has taken it upon himself to expose the reality and size of the illegal immigration crossing the Channel, all the blind eyes being turned, MSM rarely mentioning it (unless a kid drowns).
So the Brexit Party appears to think its work is not yet done.

I hope the two parties enhance each other.
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
UKIP and Brexit most certainly were one trick Parties , but just recently Farage has taken it upon himself to expose the reality and size of the illegal immigration crossing the Channel, all the blind eyes being turned, MSM rarely mentioning it (unless a kid drowns).
So the Brexit Party appears to think its work is not yet done.

I hope the two parties enhance each other.
I think that they're more indicative of where public opinion is. MSM and social media have been effectively hijacked by Remainers and Marxists, and a lot of people are feeling disenfranchised or unheard. The very fact that Fox has seen fit or been driven to set up this new party underlines that.

Go back to the 'white privilege' moment on QT; how many viewers were cheering him on? More than who were outraged, I'd hazard. Or, put it another way: if the whole country had been watching at that point, how many would have been cheering him on. A majority, I'd suggest.

There's a big disconnect in this country at the moment.
 
I think that they're more indicative of where public opinion is. MSM and social media have been effectively hijacked by Remainers and Marxists, and a lot of people are feeling disenfranchised or unheard. The very fact that Fox has seen fit or been driven to set up this new party underlines that.

Go back to the 'white privilege' moment on QT; how many viewers were cheering him on? More than who were outraged, I'd hazard. Or, put it another way: if the whole country had been watching at that point, how many would have been cheering him on. A majority, I'd suggest.

There's a big disconnect in this country at the moment.
A good reason for that is that the Left continually refers to their opposition as the 'Far-Right', fascists and Nazis, whereas in truth the vast majority are almost certainly politically apathetic centrists, with no great urge to pick up a mail-order AR-15. Not being sufficiently motivated (or having the time, as likely being employed and with more immediate problems) to froth and foam, they allow the roaring and screeching from the Guardian and all of the twitterists to continue with no serious antithesis to counter them. That's left up to the sections of the Press which aren't avowedly socialist, and the occasional academic. And ARRSE.
 
Oh the irony. There was a documentary a few years back about Harrow and a far higher number of pupils than would reflect the wider population were BAME. I thought that might just be selective editing but then attended an event at Eton where if anything, it was even more pronounced.
The kind of open-hearted liberalism generated by the receipt of school fees, eh? Harrow seems so enraptured by its own beneficence that it is now a 'multinational corporation' (with all the advantages of its charitable status) and has set up several branches throughout the Far East.

I'm not sure that is what John Lyon, yeoman of Preston had in mind all those years ago.
 
Fox has also made it clear that he wants to be the catalyst for the major parties to reassess their positions, not claim any power himself. He knows he's not that guy.
 

Nemesis44UK

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Book Reviewer
I like the cut of his jib.

I watched Match of the Day with my daughter last night and sure enough, the pontificating twunts are still taking a knee in perfect unison.

I have watched for decades as politicians have become more and more obsessed with wealth rather than doing what is best for the country. They have refused to argue for common sense, decency and pride, preferring to bend the knee to the unelected leftist anarchist agenda.

I would vote for Mr Fox in a heartbeat. He is eloquent, educated, intelligent and unapologetic, things that are anathema to today's wokefest.

Black Lives Matter is a turning point for the country and it isn't going the right way.
 
Rather late to this thread, and I'm not reading 200 pages but Mr Fox new 'Reclaim party' against the cancel woke culture is backed by 'Reputation Management'.


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I saw this interview with him yesterday. At 19.40 there is a real WTF moment when he talks about his kids and inappropriate anti racism.

"Sorry if this sounds racist Dad but Mum's a better cook than you".



He also seems to have had a bit of a Twitter spat at the weekend and replied in an unusual manner.

Random Lefty: "You're a racist."

Fox: "You're a paedophile."


 
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