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This is on now and a bloody good watch MUST SEE
Saw it an hour ago on channel 4 + nothing.
Why is it must see?
It appears to be a massive miss of an open goal.
Lots of genuine vets, telling heroic stories studded with clips of random explosions and slow motion blank MG42 fire.
Given the caliber of the people being interviewed should have been excellent, was quite poor.
Am watching my recorded version and am not sure it is editorially correct. They seems to be crediting membership of British Army Units to vets with Canadian or US accents. Maybe I read it wrong!.
Timeteam on earlier and from the Somme was very interesting. To see them pull parts of a huge RE (Livens) invented flame-thrower out of the earth was fascinating viewing.
I watched it last night and found the interviews with the veterans absorbing and sometimes very moving. The images they describe are all the viewer needs to know..to see random explosions and machine guns etc was just a waste of time and is another example of dumbing down where the viewer doesnt have to think for themselves. That part I found disappointing and they should have focused more on the veterans stories. Also I noticed some of the archive footage inaccurate for instance one scene of the beach landings was actually the practice landings at Slapton Sands in South Devon.
I wonder how the current conflicts wil be portrayed in 70 years time?
Noticed that too, but then one of the 'North American' speakers spoke of his Jocks, so maybe he was attached or maybe he emigrated after the war.
Yep, noticed that also, but I remember reading somewhere that a lot of Canadian subalterns were transferred to British units because of the shortage of subalterns, perhaps that was their route.
I'm sure the Candian Scottish units refer to their men as "Jocks" the same way the Scottish regts do.
The CANLOAN scheme
CANLOAN Army Officers Association
There was a similiar programme under which Union Defence Force (South African) junior officers were loaned to British Army units in the Mediterranean theatre (and a few in North-West Europe), for basically the same reasons. Unlike the Canadians some were attached to armoured and artillery units. I don't know accurate figures on this there but something like 400 officers were seconded to the Army. At one stage there were six South African officers in 6th Bn Gordon Highlanders in Italy. Lt G R Norton MM was awarded the VC while serving with 1st/4th Bn Hampshire Regt at the Gothic Line in August 1944.
Obituary: Captain Gerard Norton, VC | UK news | The Guardian
Some of the UDF officers were attached to Commando and other specialist units, here is an article on that to which I have made some notes in square brackets:
EASTERN CAPE Newsletter - No 53 Febuary 2009 - South African Military History Society - Title page
There is more on the link.
I have been able to identify at least 39 UDF officers who were killed or died while attached to the British Army; there may be more. This is not counting South Africans who had attested directly into the British forces.
I think the jist was trying too hard to merge Saving Private Ryan with World at War, it wasn't really neseccary, however it's target audience was young civvies to make them take a closer look at what the Old Codgers amongst us did 70 odd yrs ago.
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