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Large EOD find

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LE
Kit Reviewer
don’t hold that magazine folks - and that’s a much less loose STEN than many
In your vast experience...

You fucking moronic google expert.
 

4(T)

LE
does make you wonder why one of the more complex and least used features of the STEN lived on through the MkV

They wouldn't have bothered with the extra parts and cost if there were no pressing operational reason to have the feature.

In this case, IIRC, when rotated, it reduced the number of protrusions on the gun for insertion through a parachute harness.

Edit: here is an IWM photo showing a MkII with the magazine housing rotated:

Edit#2: the protrusion issue is also to do with rigging line snagging, for those not familiar with military parachuting.


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NSP

LE
They wouldn't have bothered with the extra parts and cost if there were no pressing operational reason to have the feature.

In this case, IIRC, when rotated, it reduced the number of protrusions on the gun for insertion through a parachute harness.

Edit: here is an IWM photo showing a MkII with the magazine housing rotated:

Edit#2: the protrusion issue is also to do with rigging line snagging, for those not familiar with military parachuting.


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With the mag housing rotated did it not also serve as a dust cover as it closed over the receiver and ejection ports?
 
They wouldn't have bothered with the extra parts and cost if there were no pressing operational reason to have the feature.

In this case, IIRC, when rotated, it reduced the number of protrusions on the gun for insertion through a parachute harness.

Edit: here is an IWM photo showing a MkII with the magazine housing rotated:

Edit#2: the protrusion issue is also to do with rigging line snagging, for those not familiar with military parachuting.


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and yet, paratroops assorted jumped just fine with loaded Thompsons, and Polish Paratroops simply carried the STEN mag well inwards (with a pistol grip) so they could Just insert a mag and rock and roll. Matey here has to rotate his mag well, then dig out his butt stock and fit it before he’s good to go.
the rotating mag well certainly seems to fit in the ‘good idea on paper, but 99.9% of users manage just fine without using it’ catagory.
 
Rifles had them even earlier, as with the Lee Metford updates in about 1893.
The mystery of who first invented it will remain unsolved.
 
and yet, paratroops assorted jumped just fine with loaded Thompsons, and Polish Paratroops simply carried the STEN mag well inwards (with a pistol grip) so they could Just insert a mag and rock and roll. Matey here has to rotate his mag well, then dig out his butt stock and fit it before he’s good to go.
the rotating mag well certainly seems to fit in the ‘good idea on paper, but 99.9% of users manage just fine without using it’ catagory.
It was also supplied to resistance fighters. The rotating mag housing made it easier to pack into containers for dropping by parachute and easier to carry concealed. They probably should have made a version with a fixed mag well, as Patchett did.
 
They wouldn't have bothered with the extra parts and cost if there were no pressing operational reason to have the feature.

In this case, IIRC, when rotated, it reduced the number of protrusions on the gun for insertion through a parachute harness.

Edit: here is an IWM photo showing a MkII with the magazine housing rotated:

Edit#2: the protrusion issue is also to do with rigging line snagging, for those not familiar with military parachuting.


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Smock without denison camo pattern and trousered leg - very fallschirmjaeger-esk.
Are those carrying positions really secure ? Id wager you wouldnt find a piece on me on landing !
 

4(T)

LE
Smock without denison camo pattern and trousered leg - very fallschirmjaeger-esk.
Are those carrying positions really secure ? Id wager you wouldnt find a piece on me on landing !


The parachute harness is fitted tight on the ground, but pulls rock tight when under tension between body and opened chute.
 
Another large EOD find. This time on on Middle Hope beach, Somerset and dealt with by the Royal Navy. Turns out to be an inert anti submarine mortar, employing a 'cock striker' mechanism (no sniggering at the back).

Sadly no pics of the explosion, but the sharp eyed among you will note the lack of protective clothing by the operatives. Is that SOP?


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HE117

LE
Another large EOD find. This time on on Middle Hope beach, Somerset and dealt with by the Royal Navy. Turns out to be an inert anti submarine mortar, employing a 'cock striker' mechanism (no sniggering at the back).

Sadly no pics of the explosion, but the sharp eyed among you will note the lack of protective clothing by the operatives. Is that SOP?


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LIMBO bomb I reckon..

..but a bit below the HWM for me to be honest! Any CDs about?
 
How would summat like that end up on a beach ?
Not a case of the ship took a sudden roll and Nobby stuck his hand on the firing switch while steadying himself ?
 

HE117

LE
How would summat like that end up on a beach ?
Not a case of the ship took a sudden roll and Nobby stuck his hand on the firing switch while steadying himself ?
It will probably have come from a range, so could either be a warshot or a practice inert. Limbo bombs were basically depth charges, so could be used for practice, unlike the older Hedgehog bombs which only went off on impact..

It could also have come from a dump site, but they are usually pretty deep.

As to how it got on the beach, my suspicions are that a trawler having a quick scoop in someplace he shouldn't may have been involved....!
 

HE117

LE
and yet, paratroops assorted jumped just fine with loaded Thompsons, and Polish Paratroops simply carried the STEN mag well inwards (with a pistol grip) so they could Just insert a mag and rock and roll. Matey here has to rotate his mag well, then dig out his butt stock and fit it before he’s good to go.
the rotating mag well certainly seems to fit in the ‘good idea on paper, but 99.9% of users manage just fine without using it’ catagory.
If only you'd been around in WW2 to advise the War Office on weapons and parachuting - it would have been all over in a few days.

Oh wait - Google didn't exist then....
 
Someone up thread asked about PPE.

There’s no point in wearing PPE with weapons over a certain size as you only become pink mist.

IIRC (without looking it up) the blast threshold is - for example - 1 metre for 250g of TNT or equivalent. Anything closer or bigger than that will cause permanent hearing damage. 250g is also about the same size as the largest AP mine.

Oh and it’s ‘cocked’ striker, not ‘cock’ striker.
 
Someone up thread asked about PPE.

There’s no point in wearing PPE with weapons over a certain size as you only become pink mist.

IIRC (without looking it up) the blast threshold is - for example - 1 metre for 250g of TNT or equivalent. Anything closer or bigger than that will cause permanent hearing damage. 250g is also about the same size as the largest AP mine.

Oh and it’s ‘cocked’ striker, not ‘cock’ striker.

I hope you're not suggesting the RN press office spellchecker is malfunctioning...

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aardvark64

War Hero
Should it be 'sucker'?
 
There’s no point in wearing PPE with weapons over a certain size as you only become pink mist.
I see the logic but what if the aged device goes pop or fizz instead of the anticipated BOOM!?

ETA before the new charges are placed.
 

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