Language Pay - Will you get it?

Will you get Language Pay?

  • No - Wrong languages

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  • No - Right language, but shafted by the system

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  • Possibly, but I do not know what the criteria are

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#2
Not me.









You may think that was just a crap comment, but I am not a linguist yet I speak 2 other languages besides English.

So what makes someone a linguist then?
 
#3
Is that an argument for the army, like many civilian companies, to appreciate...value and reward skill sets that they haven't provided but can be of infinate use to them, oracle?
 
#4
For one language - I provided the skill set using my own time and money. The other - well, that was provided by the Army, for use by the Army, but I am not classed as a linguist. Now why would that be?
 
#5
If you want to get recognition for linguistic ability, then you need to sit a MODLEB exam, their website is here.

Just because someone doesn't have (L) at the end of their trade doesn't mean that they're not classed as a linguist. If a language qualification is on your docs you can be employed in a linguistic post appropriate to your qualification.

As I understand it, anyone meeting the qualifying criteria for the Language Pay will be eligble to apply for it. The Language Pay trial is a tri-service venture, not just restricted to the (L) side of the Corps.
 
#7
The Language Pay trial has been implemented as part of the Defence Language Policy and is not restricted to the Int Corps. However, the trial is language specific.
 
#8
Tri service venture - fine, I understand that, but what if you are not a member of the IntelligenceCorps?
I Recently finished Tim Collins' book. His Battle Group's primary translator/ linguist on Telic 1 (who he praises to the heavens and beyond) was an Arabic-speaking REME officer with an Anglo-Egyptian background.

Did he get linguist's pay, I wonder?

V!
 
#9
Vegetius said:
Tri service venture - fine, I understand that, but what if you are not a member of the IntelligenceCorps?
I Recently finished Tim Collins' book. His Battle Group's primary translator/ linguist on Telic 1 (who he praises to the heavens and beyond) was an Arabic-speaking REME officer with an Anglo-Egyptian background.

Did he get linguist's pay, I wonder?

V!
No he wouldn't have, it's not actually been brought in yet and is still a trial
 
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#11
Is it actually happening? I first heard the term "Langauge Pay" somewhere getting on for 10 years ago. what criteria have they set for it?
 
#12
as FTB asked - What are the criteria? What are the details of the trial?

(Shouldn't think I'll get it though as I completely arrsed my exams at DSL)

If it is based around the MODLEB exam system then it will be a bag of shi'ite. People with useless easy languages will get it, those that slog out 18 months of torture at DSL then fail a 1 day exam will get fcuk all and still be employed as a linguist.
 
#13
The trial begins in October. It is based around the MODLEB qualifications. Those holding language qualifications in useless/dead languages won't get it. There are four qualifying languages at present. The Language Pay is a three tiered scheme with added financial benefits.

It all sounds too good to be true...well yes, there is a catch; I've not met anyone that will be getting Language Pay in October.
 
#14
There is a glimmer of hope for those (myself included) linguists who are qualified in the appropriate languages (Fraser is quite correct when he says there are only 4 languages that qualify at present).
If you sat your MODLEB exam over three years ago, you can apply to take it again and if you are successful, you will be eligible for the additionaly pay. If a period of three years hasn't yet elapsed, you can wait until it has, then apply. It's not ideal and I, like many others feel a little shafted by this, but it's better than being told that you will NEVER get it.
If anyone wants specific details of languages and pay rates, PM me.
 
#16
At present, the only languages that qualify are Arabic, Farsi, Dari and Pashtu. A little short sighted in my view as this will discourage people from volunteering for courses in other languages for which there is still an operational need.
 
#18
I've been told that it'll be four pound a day for those qualified up to level 4 (Interpreter/Diploma) in any of the qualifying languages, with the potential for this to be doubled if you are deployed on operations and using the langauge in an active capacity (e.g FHT interpreter). I agree it's not much in comparison to the effort it takes to learn a language to that level, and the even greater effort and motivation required to maintain your language at that level, but it has to be better than receiving c*ck all.
 
#20
The trial is live and that's from October 05, there is a DIN out and an application form that needs to be filled out to. It's tri-service so any cap-badge can potentially recieve it providing that: -

a) they have taken a MODLEB exam
b) they haven't already taken a financial incentive for the level they are at
c) it is one of the languages already eluded to on this thread.

who qualifies from the linguists then?

Well very few, only DSL courses are accredited to MODLEB, so all those who went up the hill don't qualify. All those who went up the hill only take the survival level and most took the language award available at the time and so don't qualify. All those who went to DSL in recent years to do the twerps course took the cash at the time and so they don't qualify either. MODLEB exams have only been around within the last couple of years so the old and bold won't qualify either (even though they are the ones who are getting fleeced with multiple tours because there are so few). If you haven't got the right language you're fleeced to - Twerp or not.

So who does qualify

Anyone who comes out of training from DSL now, any linguist who went up the hill, is still in training and hasn't taken the survival exam. anyone who took the survival exam and wants to try and teach themselves up to Advanced certificate (3333) can take the exam and then qualify. Maybe some organised tuition up to this level could be given at certain units to help the guys out, beats solitaire!!!

So as you may guess it looks a bit like a recruitment drive rather than a retention solution.

Oh I forgot there is two awards the LMA (maintenance award) and AUA (actual usage) so for example if you go on tour and use the language you get a multiple of LMA. So even if you're not 'officially' qualified by the criteria but are actively doing a job at a given SLP level you STILL don't qualify because of the fact that any number MULTIPLIED by '0' is still '0'
 
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