Land rover dead. Need advice

#1
I'm just about to pull off from some traffic lights and there is a loud bang- then no drive. I tried locking the diff to eliminate a problem there- still no joy so it's either the transfer or the main. There had been a bit of slack in the drive for a while, and leaks were no more than expected- there was oil in the box. It's an r380 on a 300tdi.
My question is this- should I try to remedy the problem with this box (and if so where do I start?) or should I just get a new reconditioned one from simmonites and fix the shagged one in time- bearing in mind this is my only car?

Cheers

Sarnian
 
#2
Are you sure it's not a half shaft falure,
 
#3
Its just as likely to be the cluth plate flying to bits.
Its not uncommon for the clutch centre to part company with the friction plate and givethe symptoms you describe.
Whip the box out before you buy anything.
If its an early R380 (1994-95ish) with an un-modified output gear then that is your next most likely culprit, if its that then the cheapest option is a new/used main box. There is a circular plate with 6 bolts on the back of the transfer box which will access this gear and its a half hour job to whip it off and check, it is the splined shaftthat wears away and it will be obvious when you give the gear a wiggle if its fooked
 
#5
#6
look at the UJs before anything else FFS, £25 repair versus national debt of Argentina..

will it move on steering full lock?
 
#7
Would a uj failure prevent drive from the rear wheels with the diff locked? Clutch was changed c6k miles ago- there's a chance I frucked up the refit, I guess. When towing it home, there was a nasty lathe-y type noise, with box in neutral. Any ideas?
 
#9
crawl underneath and have a look. any shiny flashes around the uj bolts and there's your issue.

my 90 gave a clunk and a whirr after pulling away from lights. could stick it in gear, move transfer lever etc with no power to wheels. RAC suggested clutch and I agreed.
flat bed to garage - mech jumps in and turns it to full lock rams it into gear and off it trundles.

**** knows why
 
#10
Would a uj failure prevent drive from the rear wheels with the diff locked? Clutch was changed c6k miles ago- there's a chance I frucked up the refit, I guess. When towing it home, there was a nasty lathe-y type noise, with box in neutral. Any ideas?
PM me, if you're in my part of the world I'll have a look at it for you.
 
#12
Would a uj failure prevent drive from the rear wheels with the diff locked? Clutch was changed c6k miles ago- there's a chance I frucked up the refit, I guess. When towing it home, there was a nasty lathe-y type noise, with box in neutral. Any ideas?
WHich box in neutral? Main box or transfer box?
 
#13
Cloudbuster.... a good suggestion, if not an entirely helpful one. I would if I could afford to - hell I might even buy jap as a main car and a classic LR for shits and giggles.
Jagman - main in neutral - although I can't be sure the transfer wasn't in neutral after trying to lock the diff before i got it towed. Seem to remember it stopped when the clutch was pulled.

Ex-STAB - PM sent.

I've had the inspection hatch off the bottom of the transfer box, and drained it. No lathe spinnings in the oil, and a cursory check of the gears doesn't show any missing teeth/ chunks of mainshaft.

Cheers guys

Sarnian
 
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#14
HTH, sarnian. I remember the shits and giggles of LR ownership, too, and the tendancy for it to consume beer-tokens. For S&G, get a Vitara.
 

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#15
Die choking blood, Spawn of Santa.

should I just get a new reconditioned one from simmonites and fix the shagged one in time- bearing in mind this is my only car?

Cheers

Sarnian
A proper reconed GB and transfer box is going to set you back, what? £1,000?

Check the drive train, paying special attention to the back axel, and if that is all in order, buy a GB and transfer box off of eBay for £200.

As it happens, I have a fully reconned GB (no transfer box) and reconned handbrake drum which you can have for next to nowt. I need the space. PM me for part numbers and pics?
 
#16
Probably no help at all, but from previous experience with my wagons, it could be a diff - Iv'e had both a front and rear go and the symptoms were as you described.

As I recall, the cheapest way to fix, in each case, was to replace the axle with a 2nd hand part.


T.
 

TheIronDuke

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#17
Land Rover - when you want your patriotism to hurt.
 
#18
A proper reconed GB and transfer box is going to set you back, what? £1,000?
Replaced my LT77 with a recon box for 440 quid from some place in Coventry, that was collected though. Put a Disco TB on at the same time, much quieter and less frantic now, R380 was a similar price as I recall. (Exchange price) Had old box out & new one in in about 6 hours.
 

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