Labour to lose General Election?

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by Ord_Sgt, Apr 12, 2005.

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  1. Ord_Sgt

    Ord_Sgt RIP

    I was browsing the BBC web site and looking at the election info. Anyway as most people know they on occasions invite viewer comment. Well if you go over there and look at the balance of opinion it appears as if people really have gone off labour and swung across to the Tories again. Take a look http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/vote_2005/have_your_say/4419733.stm

    There may be a very real chance of booting these unscrupulous lying chancers out. :D
     
  2. We live in hope, O_S... :D
     
  3. As an aside, it's interesting to see that the Labour Party and their supporters still harp back to Thatcherism and previous Tory govts. They have conveniently forgotten Labour's glorious past under Wilson et al. The Labour Party still has front benchers groomed under old socialism; does a leopard ever really change its spots?

    The fact that Gordon Brown inherited a very stable economy in an internationally benign econmic environment is often missed by them; it would have been hard for him to get it wrong!

    It's good to see that there will be more competition in the polls this time; British politics tends to be cyclical and it would seem the tide is turning. A more interesting election is in the offing this time around.
     
  4. Ord_Sgt

    Ord_Sgt RIP

    Also using the results of the one big vote site in the BBCs seat calculator it shows a labour collapse.

    LAB 176
    CON 371
    LIB DEM 68
    OTH 31

    I'm feeling quite chirpy today knowing that. :D
     
  5. Tory majority of 100-odd would make things interesting, particularly if they come through on some of their promises for the defence budget.

    On the other hand, hope is oft but the first step on the road to disappointment.
     
  6. Ord_Sgt

    Ord_Sgt RIP

    Very true.

    I wouldn’t count on a great deal from the Tories should they indeed win – however I suspect it could not be as bad as this current lot.

    I cannot see anything they have done in the past 8 years that has improved things in this once great country. I for one will be voting Conservative on the day – well my Dad will be, by proxy because I’m in Australia and it’s a long way to go…. :)
     
  7. Your having a laugh? Say goodbye to public services, hello tax hikes, welcome back Mr boom and bust. M Howard has a much Charisma as a dead toad (and olly letwins figures make good reading! :0) Don't forget The tory defence cuts of the early 90's, make the last lot look tiny. Sure there's some lying cnuts in this govt, but the Tories!! makes me shiver..............and laugh :p
     
  8. I'm a Tory supporter, but I mentioned that in the thread on defence policy statements. The Tories started the defence cuts in response to / taking advantage of the perceived post-Cold War 'peace dividend' but under the Labour governments these cuts have been deeper and occurred faster.
     
  9. Ord_Sgt is right - they've done nothing in 8 years except massively boost the number of state sector non jobs. Everything else they've touched they've harmed (and taken taken pleasure in it).

    Labour were full of promises 8 years ago "tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime" and "think the unthinkable on welfare reform" are two straplines that should haunt them. Crime and fear of crime are significantly worse after 8 years and welfare needs an axe taking to it - income tax raised 136 bn for the Govt in 2003 - and they spent 161 bn on benefits (not including pension!!!!) Every penny we pay in income tax is going to pay someone's giro. A 2% cut in benefits payments would give the conservatives plenty of room for tax cuts.

    Labour keep suggesting that tax cuts equals cuts in public services - does it buggery. Health, education and defence spending combined gets nowhere near the amount spent on benefits.
     
  10. Are you on benefits? Do think blatent lying to the public is a good thing? Are you of the mindset that thinks that totally disregarding the publics views and opinions are a good thing? Vote Labour then. Me? I'll vote Conservative, not because I like them, but because it will be the only chance that we have to get rid of liars in high office.
    P.S. The UK under brown wiould be an utter nightmare. Remember there are only two classes these days, working and benefit. Guess who pays for who? As Norman Tebbiot once said 'Get on your bikes....'
     
  11. It is nice to see that there is a positive buzz in the blue camp and I really do hope they can get BLair out. However, I just get the feeling that the scale of the task facing Mr Howard will be too much this time. I can see Labour caming in with still a 50+ majority and Brown being PM in the next 2 years (after a hostile leadership battle with BLair).

    I ask the people of Great Britain to prove me wrong and get rid of this bunch of cheating to$$ers.
     
  12. IdleAdjt, see my post above yours.
     
  13. I have political affiliations, I am i understand now a golden voter, but under the Tories I was made redundent twice, lost my own business, set up under Tory advice, and was made homeless. After seeing the Tory manifesto launch I canoot see how the maths add up.
     
  14. Hackle, I understand the possible outcomes, yet still get a feeling we shall see no change. A hung parliment would be a disaster as party politics and the whip would mean that nothing would get through. would be nice to think that a hung parliment would enable sensible laws to be passed by MPs actually believing in the issue and not just following the Fuhrerprincip.