Labour target cancer sufferers with anti tory leaflets

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  1. Labour have sent over 250,000 leaflets to past and present cancer sufferers in effect saying that under tory plans they could have died.

    Times Link

    Interestingly, the woman pictured on the leaflets says she thought her photo and quote were taken to be used internally in NHS magazine, not on UK wide partisan mailshot.

    Can Broon go any lower? And how can 32% of the country still want this guy?
  2. I shall await my card with interest, but being as how a chunk of my upper jaw was removed by an Army Surgeon Major, perhaps Liebour will assume I won't buy their message?
  3. OldSnowy

    OldSnowy LE Moderator Book Reviewer

    If there is an investigation into how this advertising agency got the addresses of cancer sufferers, no matter what the outcome I'm sure that "lessons will be learned" and "procedures tightened". I other words, absolutely nothing will happen. The Agency will keep their dosh, and no doubt get more work on the back of this 'success'.

    I am again astonished that these scum could manage to sink lower in my estimation. Oddly enough, I seem to have said that several times over the past few years - I really should not be surprised, but still am.
  4. Of course the records are safe - they have all been computerised and have all the safeguards that (your)money could buy. It is all for your own good. The Party knows what is best for you even if you don't. Resistance is futile.
  5. I have a very low opinion of Labour, just when I thought they couldn't possibly sink any lower they go and surprise me by plunging new depths , scum.
  6. the_boy_syrup

    the_boy_syrup LE Book Reviewer

    My dad died of cancer in an NHS hospital
    He was on a ward for people with bad backs because there were no beds available else where and the first doctor thought he had a chill and would be out in a couple of days
    A senior nurse came to see how he was and told us he wouldn't be leaving the hospital alive and the doctor had it all wrong
    His specialist after doing his nut got him moved to a side room we had to get them to call the specialist back out after there was a mix up with his Morphine dosage (specialist fantastic guy)
    The Ward Nurse applogised to my mum stating they weren't used to dealing with dying people

    That was under Labour so I don't think I'll vote for them - wouldn't have made any difference who was in power unless Brown really does believe he's god or can solve any problems
  7. Why am i not surprised that Liabour have stooped to new lows in their efforts to win votes. Sadly, they seem to believe that throwing money at the NHS is the way to make it better.....I'd argue that gold plating the health service was a way of making it fatter, less efficient and therefore less likely to save your life.

    Anyhow, hopefully only 25 or so days left until these complete c&*ts are consigned to irrelevance.
  8. Did they though? If you mailshot 250k people then, statistically, wouldn't you expect "Many of those receiving the cards [to] have undergone cancer scans or treatment within the past five years. "
  9. Would these be the same cancer sufferers who are denied life saving drugs by the very government who now want their vote?

    And how is the government supposed to fund child birth in Poland if it starts giving out drugs willy nilly to the very people who pay for the NHS?
  10. OldSnowy

    OldSnowy LE Moderator Book Reviewer

    Absolutely correct, you would expect that. What would be statistically very very dodgy indeed would be if the cards seemed to go to only, or primarily, to those who have or had cancer. Oddly enough, this appears to be the case. From the Times article:

    In the Labour constituency of Sherwood, Nottinghamshire, two of a group of eight women friends received the breast cancer card. They are the only two to have undergone cancer treatment.


    In the marginal east London constituency of Poplar and Limehouse, the card was sent to a 44-year-old television producer who had a potentially cancerous lump that turned out to be a cyst. She appeared to be the only person who received the mailshot among 50 neighbours

    If that was 'random selection' then I'd like that advertising company to choose my next Lottery numbers please!
  11. the_boy_syrup

    the_boy_syrup LE Book Reviewer

    There is no child birth in Poland it's all done over here
  12. Actually they go back to Poland after filling in an E111 and they get their childbirth costs reimbursed by the NHS.

    Dept of Health figures say it is around 3 of them per day at a cost of £1600 each to the UK taxpayer.

    Shadow Health Minister Stephen O'Brien slammed the trend, saying: "These findings from the News of The World show Gordon Brown has betrayed the goodwill of our NHS.

    "It is shocking he seems content to let patients shop around the EU healthcare systems at the expense of the British taxpayer."

    And Matthew Elliott, head of campaign group the TaxPayers' Alliance, said: "It seems whatever people want to do, taxpayers have to pick up the bill."

    "It simply isn't fair to make us all indulge lifestyle decisions like this when the NHS is unable to afford lifesaving drugs for other patients."

    Editted to add this :

    The Polish Federation for Women and Family Planning claims that thousands of women already travel to Britain each year for abortions after being denied them in Poland – which is a Roman Catholic country.

    Their report in 2008 found that 10,000 Polish women had abortions in Britain during 2007 in procedures costing the NHS between £5 million and £10 million.
  13. So 3 out of 250,000, not that great. Was it just sent out to cancer sufferers or is it just selection bias - if you got a card but didn't have cancer your not going to go to the press about it.
  14. The problem seems to the the data the hospitals are releasing:

    So in other words the hospitals are deleting peoples names and house number but publishing significant details like age, sex and post code. Merge that with a few more databases and you can identify the names and addresses of all the people with the correct age, sex and postcode. Normally there will only be one or 2 people who fit. So your data is not safe with the NHS because they are too stupid to understand how useful part of the truth can be to a competent analyst.

    Although there is a worrying alternative; the article also says:

    So maybe they already had the Departments of Health's list of cancer patients.
  15. Did you read the article?


    So that is 3 hits out of 3 tries.

    Maybe some have gone to non-cancer sufferers, but the mailshot was clearly targeted. See also my previous post and the statement in the article that: