Labour immigration politics....

Discussion in 'The Intelligence Cell' started by Blogg, Mar 6, 2013.

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  1. Yesterday:

    “Sadly, immigration has served as a proxy for race in the British political narrative for so long, that it is still not possible to totally deracialise it.

    There is no path to victory for the Labour Party in 2015 through the thickets of anti-immigrant politics and I am confident that Ed Miliband knows this.”

    Dianne Abbott


    "One of the things we didn’t get right was immigration, and that’s why I’ve got a new approach. Millions of people in this country are concerned about immigration and if people are concerned about it, then the Labour Party I lead is going to be talking about it.”

    Ed Miliband

    Sound like a bit of a spat but two small problems with the Labour bullshit vs. Labour reality:

    ".....the Labour Party I lead....."


    "....talking about it...."
  2. Labour immigration policy's, shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted.

    Oh and Dianne Abbott is a nasty bigoted hypocritical bitch.
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  3. You left out: lazy, fat, ugly, thick and bent.
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  4. The Labour woman (don't know her name, don't care) who was on The Daily Politics today certainly wasn't "talking about it". In fact she tried very hard to avoid "talking about it".
  5. They had no policy, the door was left open
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  6. Labour....full of lies and deceit.
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  7. The door is still open...
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  8. Shum mistake, Labour didn't have an immigration policy, when they were the big chiefs around did they?
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  9. I've said this elswhere in another thread but I'll say it again. Labour did indeed open the door to huge amounts of immigration and it did the vast majority of ordinary people no good whatsoever that it happened.

    My groundwork business which was thriving prior to the gates being thrown open completely floundered and never picked up again to a sustainable level. I went from working 5 to 7 days a week to 4 or 5 days a month once all those who came here from abroad got their feet under the table. Many months, there was no work at all!

    It didn't take them long to get their feet under the table either and there was a simple reason for that!

    Labour made the decision to let them in but they didn't do it just because they felt like it. They were lobbied and massively by industry, particularly the construction industry who could see huge pools of cheap labour which would save them billions in wage costs.

    For example. Home grown brick layers on building sites were pulling in £160 to £170 per day. Polish bricklayers came over to Britain and did it for £40 per day. Check out any building site at the time and for several years afterwards and it was unusual to hear native English being spoken. Not an awful lot has changed even today. The big companies still prefer foreign labour because they get it cheaper and of course, the whole thing has filtered down to the medium and the small sized companies as well.

    So by all means blame Labour for opening the gates but don't forget those who massively lobbied them to do it. Incidentally, those companies would have done the same thing with the Tories if they had been in power at the time.
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  10. Given that those Polish workers are living in Britain how do they manage to get by on £40 a day or were the prices paid before they came inflated by lack of skilled brickies?
  11. Cold_Collation

    Cold_Collation LE Book Reviewer

    But that 'cheap' workforce doesn't come cheap. It might allow the balance sheet of certain companies to look healthier but it puts the home-grown workforce on the dole... which shifts the cost to the country. And despite what the Daily Wail may say, many of those on the dole don't want to be.

    A typical example of not thinking an idea or policy through to its fullest extent. We really are governed by short-termist idiots.
  12. Cold_Collation

    Cold_Collation LE Book Reviewer

    Probably as a lot of migrant workforces do; by pooling their money and living in digs where the living room and dining room are also bedrooms, accepting that that's their lot because they're only there to make money.

    Meanwhile the guys who live here because they're from here can't afford to pay the rent or mortgage because they're only offered £40 a day.
  13. It's disappointing to see failure heaped on failure. There is a refusal to admit the mistake because then you don't have to undo the mistake. Sound familiar? Someone makes a decision then moves on after a short tenure, his replacement refuses to admit his predecessor made a mistake, (politically unacceptable) and just continues adding new changes heaping error on top of error. Why has no one got the balls to just say STOP we've made a bad decision and revert back to something that was more workable? You could apply this to immigration, education, the NHS, welfare state.