Labour hid scorched earth debts

#1
Ministers have unearthed hidden contracts including:

A series of defence contracts signed shortly before the election, including a £13 billion tanker aircraft programme whose cost has “astonished and baffled” ministers.

Gerald Howarth, the new Tory minister for defence procurement, disclosed that the financial pressures on the Ministry of Defence (MoD) were even graver than he had been expecting. “The appetite for new programmes exceeded the capacity of the MoD’s stomach, particularly in the run-up to the election,” he said. “In the past few months there was a rush of new orders. What we are going to have to do is ensure the equipment programme matches the military need.”

Defence sources say the military has been using the urgent operational requirement (UOR) to borrow money from the Treasury to fund equipment for Afghanistan that the MoD could not afford to buy. “They’ve been using the UOR system like a credit card,” one source said, “and they’ve been maxing out on the card to the point where they’re around £700m over the limit. It’s all got to be paid back.”


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7127819.ece
 
#2
If it's all true, and I've no reason to doubt it, then it needs to serve as a warning for any cod head that thinks about voting Liabour again.
 

maguire

LE
Book Reviewer
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#5
It will take a long time for the new boys to unravel Gordon Brown's mess
Long after it is buried, New Labour will continue to inflict economic pain, says Jeff Randall

By Jeff Randall
Published: 7:47PM BST 13 May 2010
With the corpse of New Labour's government still warm on the mortician's slab, an inquest into the death of its salesmen has already begun. David Miliband, the bookies' favourite to take over as leader, says he will tour the country to find out what went wrong. At the risk of doing his party an undeserved favour, let's save Bananaman the cost of a trip.
Despite its record of fiscal incompetence, constitutional vandalism and disregard for Middle England, Gordon Brown's administration ought never to have collapsed. It had, after all, created for itself a client class of supplicant voters. As part of a grand plan for permanent office, more than one million immigrants were handed British passports (80 per cent of first-generation arrivals vote Labour) and 900,000 workers added to the public-sector payroll.
More pernicious still, Mr Brown and his ministers were delighted to overlook a grotesque distortion in the make-up of parliamentary boundaries, which meant that a 30 per cent vote for Labour produced about 300 seats, whereas the same percentage for the Conservatives delivered only 200 seats. In short, just about everything that could have been done to bend the system in New Labour's favour was in place by the time the election was called.
The problem, however, was that the project had been constructed upon a moral cesspit. The party's membership had been taken prisoner by a gang of desperadoes who clung to a conviction that honesty and integrity were disposable luxuries, and substance an unwelcome substitute for propaganda. The upshot was a dystopian regime in which Lord Mandelson and Alastair Campbell were recalled from ignominy to orchestrate a campaign of lavish deceit.
Together they became Mr Brown's very own Squealer, the insidious porker in Animal Farm who manipulates language to justify his boss's tyranny, while limiting debate and confusing the lower orders. In extremis, when awkward questions persist, Squealer fires off statistics to "prove" that life is improving, and warns darkly against the return of the farm's previous owner.
Lord Mandelson had twice been ejected from Cabinet over improper conduct. Mr Campbell was a central figure in the work of fiction that masqueraded as a security dossier on Saddam Hussein's "threat" to the United Kingdom. They had stripped themselves of legitimacy, yet were regarded by Mr Brown as uniquely qualified to help him retain the keys to No 10. It was a revolting union of unprincipled, unelected, unloved charlatans.
As the campaign developed, it was soon clear that New Labour was not going to win another Commons majority. After a decade of the government's chicanery, voters had had enough. Ministers, of course, blamed persecution by the press (even The Guardian deserted), but it was Mr Brown's financial mismanagement that hung like a burning tyre round his MPs' necks.

john
 

maguire

LE
Book Reviewer
#6
burning tyres around labour MP's necks...pictures with words...
 
#7
These "hidden contracts" in the original article were no such thing; they might not have been very sensible but were reported and commented on in all sorts of media. Gerald Howarth should get himself a computer.
 
#8
Surprise, sur-effing-prise. It will not only be within the MoD that hidden debt is found.

Good. Mr. Cameron has agreed with me that one Labour MP is worth his pay - Frank Field (see many previous posts). I hope that he is given a suitable appointment OUTSIDE The House of Lords which I trust will be disbanded in toto very soon.

Who to believe? 'ObnoxiousJockGit' or Gerald Howarth MP.

'OJG' is clearly a Labour apologist - maybe even Mr. Joyce himself.

Mr. Howarth is NOT a Labour functionary. Therefore, I believe:

Mr. Howarth.
 
#9
Sorry, Future Strategic Tanker Aircraft was signed ages ago

And whats more, was discussed at length by the defence select committee which was chaired by a fellow conservative MP
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
Book Reviewer
#10
meridian said:
Sorry, Future Strategic Tanker Aircraft was signed ages ago

And whats more, was discussed at length by the defence select committee which was chaired by a fellow conservative MP
Also disscussed on here and E Goat as well IIRC

Wonder how we knew about it and not Her Majesties Loyal Opposition?
 
#12
We always knew the country was in a mess, just not how bad. Sadly, our current govt will end up taking some of the blame for the austerity measures that will follow.

Jeff Randall is right - but it's amazing how many people will find what he says to be unsporting, and somehow ironically, a distortion of the truth according to Mandelson/Campbell.

The worse irony is though, that by the time the mess is sorted out, the current govt will probably be voted out, only to return New New Labour, with an unquenched socialist's appetite for spending other people's hard earned/saved money on crap.
 
#15
fairycakes said:
A series of defence contracts signed shortly before the election, including a £13 billion tanker aircraft programme whose cost has “astonished and baffled” ministers.
Ministers are baffled by that contract? Not half as baffled as the end userd are by the retarded contract! 8O
 
#19
fairycakes said:
Ministers have unearthed hidden contracts including:

A series of defence contracts signed shortly before the election, including a £13 billion tanker aircraft programme whose cost has “astonished and baffled” ministers.

Gerald Howarth, the new Tory minister for defence procurement, disclosed that the financial pressures on the Ministry of Defence (MoD) were even graver than he had been expecting. “The appetite for new programmes exceeded the capacity of the MoD’s stomach, particularly in the run-up to the election,” he said. “In the past few months there was a rush of new orders. What we are going to have to do is ensure the equipment programme matches the military need.”

Defence sources say the military has been using the urgent operational requirement (UOR) to borrow money from the Treasury to fund equipment for Afghanistan that the MoD could not afford to buy. “They’ve been using the UOR system like a credit card,” one source said, “and they’ve been maxing out on the card to the point where they’re around £700m over the limit. It’s all got to be paid back.”


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7127819.ece
It's always the tactic of an incoming government to suggest that things are much worse than they thought. It's been going on since the year dot.

BTW, was the "£13bn tanker aircraft contract" different to the "£13bn tanker aircraft contract" for FSTA signed in 2008?
 
#20
meridian said:
FSTA was signed in 2008, how has that been unearthed or crept out of the woodwork

Lazy journalism as usual
It's not lazy journalism, it's an outright mistruth.
 

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