Labour about to split?

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That's a good argument.
On a purely practical level (that is, Corbyn's views and his support from members aside) if Corbyn loses, say, 15-20 MPs, it's a disaster for Labour. Nine or ten is still very bad. I don't see how he can stay on then without the parliamentary party collapsing. I don't think he'll go however. God knows what is going to happen.
It is a Godsend to the Tories. You can probably rip up Labour's list of target marginals already.
I think the numbers leaving are gonna stack up, possibly 3 more this week, and then more next, especially if they do nothing about whoever is running the YL Account, or decide to let Galloway or Livingstone back in (if they do that, mass exodus)
 
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As you follow these things, have you checked out what Joan Ryan has said?
It's by far the strongest set of complaints so far
 
I think the numbers leaving are gonna stack up, possibly 3 more this week, and then more next, especially if they do nothing about whoever is running the YL Account, or decide to let Galloway or Livingstone back in (if they do that, mass exodus)
Might as well let Livingstone in, Derek Hatton came back in today, Livingstone is normal and sane in comparison.
 
I think the numbers leaving are gonna stack up, possibly 3 more this week, and then more next, especially if they do nothing about whoever is running the YL Account, or decide to let Galloway or Livingstone back in (if they do that, mass exodus)

Just imagine Galloway back within Labour.

I'm getting a vision of Corbyn up at a lecturn in front of a Labour audience, he calls Galloway up onto the stage, pats him on the head a few times and says 'Everyone, welcome back 'El Gallo' back to the party'.
 
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Interesting from the BBC:

'Seven other MPs quit on Monday to form the Independent Group in Parliament.

There is mounting speculation that a number of Conservative MPs disillusioned with the government's policy on Brexit could join forces with them.

BBC Newsnight's political editor Nick Watt said Conservative whips were reporting three MPs - Sarah Wollaston, Heidi Allen and Anna Soubry - had gone "very, very silent".

While the Independent Group are not confirming anything, he said he had been told by one member that Wednesday would be a "very busy day".'

Eighth MP quits Labour for Independent Group
 
Interesting from the BBC:

'Seven other MPs quit on Monday to form the Independent Group in Parliament.

There is mounting speculation that a number of Conservative MPs disillusioned with the government's policy on Brexit could join forces with them.

BBC Newsnight's political editor Nick Watt said Conservative whips were reporting three MPs - Sarah Wollaston, Heidi Allen and Anna Soubry - had gone "very, very silent".

While the Independent Group are not confirming anything, he said he had been told by one member that Wednesday would be a "very busy day".'

Eighth MP quits Labour for Independent Group
Sarah Wollaston

Sarah Wollaston - Wikipedia

Wollaston was born in 1962, in Woking, Surrey, into a military family. As a result, her family moved frequently during the early years of life as her father – a supplies and catering officer in the Royal Air Force, and formerly a diver and bomb disposal specialist in the Royal Navy – was posted to different bases around the world, including postings to Hong Kong and Malta.[8][9]

Voting record - Sarah Wollaston MP, Totnes - TheyWorkForYou

Sarah Wollaston MP, Totnes - TheyWorkForYou
Sarah Wollaston consistently voted against strengthening the Military Covenant

Edit found it

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Interesting from the BBC:

'Seven other MPs quit on Monday to form the Independent Group in Parliament.

There is mounting speculation that a number of Conservative MPs disillusioned with the government's policy on Brexit could join forces with them.

BBC Newsnight's political editor Nick Watt said Conservative whips were reporting three MPs - Sarah Wollaston, Heidi Allen and Anna Soubry - had gone "very, very silent".

While the Independent Group are not confirming anything, he said he had been told by one member that Wednesday would be a "very busy day".'

Eighth MP quits Labour for Independent Group
Heidi Allen

Heidi Allen - Wikipedia

South Cambridgeshire votes Remain as Leave leads UK

Voting record - Heidi Allen MP, South Cambridgeshire - TheyWorkForYou

Heidi Allen MP, South Cambridgeshire - TheyWorkForYou
 
Sarah Wollaston

Sarah Wollaston - Wikipedia

Wollaston was born in 1962, in Woking, Surrey, into a military family. As a result, her family moved frequently during the early years of life as her father – a supplies and catering officer in the Royal Air Force, and formerly a diver and bomb disposal specialist in the Royal Navy – was posted to different bases around the world, including postings to Hong Kong and Malta.[8][9]

Voting record - Sarah Wollaston MP, Totnes - TheyWorkForYou

Sarah Wollaston MP, Totnes - TheyWorkForYou
Sarah Wollaston consistently voted against strengthening the Military Covenant
Thank you for the info.
Wollaston is a Tory MP facing possible deselect ion. A bit of a 'jump before being pushed' trend with some of these MPs!
 
Thank you for the info.
Wollaston is a Tory MP facing possible deselect ion. A bit of a 'jump before being pushed' trend with some of these MPs!
I cant find how Totnes voted, might be the wobbly..
 
I wonder if any of those changing ship have stopped to think about their constituents. Most constituents will have voted for a political party, not an individual, therefore each of the deserters should stand down for a bye-election.
Whilst I am inclined to agree with you, how many Labour voters thought they were voting for a raving loonie communist?

You could argue that most voters aren't getting what they thought they voted for.
 
The wibbling and moonscreeching from the hard core Corbyn supporters would be hilarious if it wasn't so scary that the tunnel vision caused by mental illness of that magnitude is allowed to roam free.
 
The wibbling and moonscreeching from the hard core Corbyn supporters would be hilarious if it wasn't so scary that the tunnel vision caused by mental illness of that magnitude is allowed to roam free.
Some of it is genuinely scary. The pro-Palestine/anti-Israeli stuff on Twitter from Corbynites is ott. It seems to be the most important issue by far to many online supporters of Labour.
 
He is another MP threatened with deselection. That threat has really backfired in the short term. I wonder how many of the eight or nine will contest their seats at next GE? That is, is this a move to force Corbyn out in some way, or a real attempt to preserve their careers and a form of non-Corbyn Labour?
Maybe they've been played and set up to be cannon fodder in the attack against labour.
 
Maybe they've been played and set up to be cannon fodder in the attack against labour.
True. They could be a forlorn hope, those with the least to lose (those facing possible deselection) or the most ambitious (Ummuna). The more I read about it, the more it seems a well-planned move, likely with a source or sources of funding. To recover Labour or to set up against other parties is less clear but if any Tories join then I assume it is a new party. I have no idea where it is headed as, at some point, they will have to face a GE, in safe Labour seats(?).
 

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