L1A1 Barrel Profile / Drawing wanted

Some proper gun-porn there!
The thing I think is funny is that the US marine corps has a modern manual for operating the FAL because they have a couple of original Harrington and Richardson made FALs in inventory from the original trials.

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The thing I think is funny is that the US marine corps has a modern manual for operating the FAL because they have a couple of original Harrington and Richardson made FALs in inventory from the original trials.

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In the L1A1 operating manual there is a page of knots - not really sure what they are for but they look nice
 
I would have thought that any graphic depictions or representations of That Rifle would be considered a proscribed taboo, rather in the way of those of the Prophet Muhammad and similarly be subject to fatwa and punishable by death.

Surely covered by international treaty prohibiting the design, manufacture and use of WMD's?
 

tiv

War Hero
Done some more digging, drawing numbers etc along with a bit on how the front sights were originally machined. You don't want to do that nowdays. However a decent CNC mill or Machining center would do it.

Just info for the moment, trying to source an unmachined front sight block.
The mention of vertical broaching on the "front sight machining" pdf took me back. Enfield put in six Weatherly broaching machines for L1 production. The three larger ones did a lot of the machining on the reciever that came in as a forging. Even the T-Slot for the cocking handle was broached.
 
As an aside I saw on cnutbook that Edinburgh Rifles have a straight pull L1A1 ‘Buckland’ conversion in just now for £1500 for any arrser’s that get wet in the gusset over such things. Seems a lot of money for what it is but I suppose it’s all relative.

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Comparatively cheap, what concerns me is it states it's converted to sect 1 which is not allowed, they have to be built from new parts to be legal. @scalieback may be able to confirm.
 
The mention of vertical broaching on the "front sight machining" pdf took me back. Enfield put in six Weatherly broaching machines for L1 production. The three larger ones did a lot of the machining on the reciever that came in as a forging. Even the T-Slot for the cocking handle was broached.
There was a company in the USA who was trying to sell the Lithgow receiver stages it had brought. Complete set of receivers from forging then every stage until finished.
They wanted a ridiculous amount of money for them.

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R0B

Old-Salt
Comparatively cheap, what concerns me is it states it's converted to sect 1 which is not allowed, they have to be built from new parts to be legal. @scalieback may be able to confirm.
I was looking at one recently for £2,800 but about £800 above what I have available at present.
 

4(T)

LE
Comparatively cheap, what concerns me is it states it's converted to sect 1 which is not allowed, they have to be built from new parts to be legal. @scalieback may be able to confirm.

Thats why I won't touch any straight-pull military rifles at all. If you don't know the provenance of the parts, then you are risking serious trouble - even jail.

I think quite a lot of early conversions were done on the quiet by welding up gas apertures in barrels and gas blocks, and those rifles are probably still floating around somewhere. If you don't have an x-ray machine you may be unaware that you have a Sect5 in your possession - or have even sold one to an unsuspecting punter!
 
I use only brand new parts purchased from other RFD,s , all who have been doing it a very long time.
 
I`ve got the bits together to build a straight pull version of "That Rifle" , I`ll be having a barrel made and could do with a drawing with original dimensions , , also what was the twist rate ?
What are you trying to do? 3D print it? ;)
 

KrisP

Crow
Done some more digging, drawing numbers etc along with a bit on how the front sights were originally machined. You don't want to do that nowdays. However a decent CNC mill or Machining center would do it.

Just info for the moment, trying to source an unmachined front sight block.
I'm trying to find my FAL history book by FN, I'm sure that early on the British Government gave FN a development contract for the FAL also the British Drawings are for 'Improvements' to the FAL so the intellectual property would belong to the British Government not FN. I think the person at Leeds was just too lazy to get the drawings out.

I have got a copy of the receiver drawings if it is of any help?

A gas block is available from Numrich but cant be exported but I guess if it was it would still be a section 5 part.

I think someone I know has some DSA unmachined gas blocks which would be a start if they are exportable/importable.
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The problem with the gas blocks is not on the UK side but ITAR in the US. leaving aside the question of is a gas block "a component" component parts of Section 5 (ab) self-loading rifles are subject to section 1 control only. If they were not then the whole straight pull project is a non-starter as the breach block clearly is, and has by definition previously been a component part of a self loading rifle. Worse case it would be subject to section one control. Buckland got burnt not because he used some components from an SLR but because he used all of them just removing the gas system and plunging the barrel port. This would be considered down grading the weapon and explicitly does not affect classification in the Act "component means firearm" in the 68 Act component does not mean weapon, which is the term used in the 88. This is Home Office policy and they will give you a letter to this effect. (Always useful to have subtitles for the hard of thinking in firearms matters). So when you take a barrel away what you are left with is Section 1 parts unfortunately the sight blocks usually disappear with the barrels hence the shortage I got a couple of spares when I got mine if you get stuck my problem is at the other end, in timing the barrel if you could let me have a readable copy of the barrel drawing I would be most grateful.

The above can be verified by the HO.
As the great poet philosopher and scholar Brian the Snail from the Magic Roundabout put it "I know very little but what I do know is very gem like"
 

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