Kremlin lays claim to huge chunk of oil-rich North Pole

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It sounds like the Russians are talking balls again. There's no way they can seriously expect the international community to simply sit back and say, "oh, of course it's yours, how silly of us..."

North Pole is recognised as international, not belonging to anyone. The Kremlin is being very very silly if it thinks its claim will be believed.
 
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Sergey, according to the UN authority the area Russia is claiming is OUTSIDE the 200 mile zone.

Even the Russian government realises this, as they are going to have to apply to the UN to drill/mine there, as the article says.
 
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... according to both maps part of the ridge is within the Russian 200 mile zone, the other area (Barents sea) is to the West of an unsettled (disputed border).

Full marks for trying Sergei - no doubt if you repeat the claim often and loudly enough it will become more true (in similar manner to Neue Arbeit claims for the NHS, support for UK military et al).
 
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rockape34 said:
... according to both maps part of the ridge is within the Russian 200 mile zone, the other area (Barents sea) is to the West of an unsettled (disputed border).

Full marks for trying Sergei - no doubt if you repeat the claim often and loudly enough it will become more true (in similar manner to Neue Arbeit claims for the NHS, support for UK military et al).
Bore da Rockape. I belive that any possible problem would be resolved this or that way. The Russians could begin with a part that is inside 200 miles zone. Later or sooner EU and USA would demand more and more gas and oil and likely not Russia would ask but rather would be asked to continue beyond 200-miles zone.
 
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KGB_resident said:
Bore da Rockape. I belive that any possible problem would be resolved this or that way. The Russians could begin with a part that is inside 200 miles zone. Later or sooner EU and USA would demand more and more gas and oil and likely not Russia would ask but rather would be asked to continue beyond 200-miles zone.

Or we could persuade Canada to start drilling for it, given that their right to the area outside Russia's zone is just as tenable. And they don't throw their matryoshka out of their pram half so often...
 
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The issue is that Russia is claiming that this underwater shelf links Russia to that part of the North Pole, making it a natural extension of its territory - which is just plain stupid.

I'm sure using that logic many territorial disputes could occur. Russia should accept that the area is international and not Russian and move on.
 
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rockape34 said:
Bore da Sergei,
Sut ydych chi?

good to see you are learning Welsh :D

... you could well be right - possibly a Russian or Russian/Canadian led international operation, if only because of the proximity to Russia/Canada.
Da iawn, diolch. A chithau?

Annigonol ydy un iaith
 
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The_Goon said:
Bloody Welsh. ;)
Genir pawb yn rhydd ac yn gydradd â'i gilydd mewn urddas a hawliau. Fe'u cynysgaeddir â rheswm a chydwybod, a dylai pawb ymddwyn y naill at y llall mewn ysbryd cymodlon.
 
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KGB_resident said:
The_Goon said:
Bloody Welsh. ;)
Genir pawb yn rhydd ac yn gydradd â'i gilydd mewn urddas a hawliau. Fe'u cynysgaeddir â rheswm a chydwybod, a dylai pawb ymddwyn y naill at y llall mewn ysbryd cymodlon.
For fcuk's sake Sergey, get a room you two, or at least a soggy field.
 
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Yeah... I have no idea what you're saying Sergey.

However...

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No idea if that makes sense, but hey hum.

Editted as ARRSE wouldn't post my Cyrillic script. :thumleft:
 
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Russians dont have the technological know-how to exploit these resources in any case.

All the hoo-haa about them 'seizing' assets is plain balls - they claim ownership of the oil, but contract companies from other countries to actually get the stuff out of the ground.

Ergo, russia can claim it - if the UN doesnt recognise that claim, any company then drilling there will have their rigs arrested once they reach international waters.
 
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The_Goon said:
Yeah... I have no idea what you're saying Sergey.
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
(Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights)
 
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Daede said:
if the UN doesnt recognise that claim, any company then drilling there will have their rigs arrested once they reach international waters.
By whom? And surely the Russians don't need to go through international waters to access it?
 

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