Knighthood for Salmon Rushdie!?!

#1
Ladies and Gentlemen,

After turning a sophisticated after dinner discussion with close friends into a heavily Merlot assisted rant on Saturday night, I just wanted get a feel for the question; is it me or have those at the top gone barking mad?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6756149.stm

I am sorry, but the idea of a knighthood for a man who has contributed practically nothing to this marvellous nation of ours whilst costing the taxpayer in excess of £10m for police protection costs makes me nautious. Irrespective of your view on his work (for information my views revolve around his despicable purposeful provocation of religious tensions to increase his notoriety) I fail to understand how on earth anyone could come to the conclussion that he merits an honour such as this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southeast/halloffame/public_life/simon_weston.shtml

Measured against a true heroe such as Mr Simon Weston OBE, a man who has demonstrated courage of the highest magnitude proving an inspiration to the nation and despite his continuing charity work has still not been knighted surely it is time to ask ourselves, is it is time for the nation to vote for who should be honoured? Perhaps then there will be less opportunity for berks like Rushdie to take an honour such as this away from the real national heroes.

Discuss.....
 
#2
yes but it pisses off iran and muslims the world over got to be good value for money :twisted:
 
#4
Bleachy said:
Ladies and Gentlemen,

After turning a sophisticated after dinner discussion with close friends into a heavily Merlot assisted rant on Saturday night, I just wanted get a feel for the question; is it me or have those at the top gone barking mad?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6756149.stm

I am sorry, but the idea of a knighthood for a man who has contributed practically nothing to this marvellous nation of ours whilst costing the taxpayer in excess of £10m for police protection costs makes me nautious. Irrespective of your view on his work (for information my views revolve around his despicable purposeful provocation of religious tensions to increase his notoriety) I fail to understand how on earth anyone could come to the conclussion that he merits an honour such as this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southeast/halloffame/public_life/simon_weston.shtml

Measured against a true heroe such as Mr Simon Weston OBE, a man who has demonstrated courage of the highest magnitude proving an inspiration to the nation and despite his continuing charity work has still not been knighted surely it is time to ask ourselves, is it is time for the nation to vote for who should be honoured? Perhaps then there will be less opportunity for berks like Rushdie to take an honour such as this away from the real national heroes.

Discuss.....
Not sure where you got the figure of 10 million quid - I understood he paid for his own protection anyway.

Why not give him a knighthood - not exactly doing you any harm is it.
 
#5
Ord_Sgt said:
Bleachy said:
Ladies and Gentlemen,

After turning a sophisticated after dinner discussion with close friends into a heavily Merlot assisted rant on Saturday night, I just wanted get a feel for the question; is it me or have those at the top gone barking mad?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6756149.stm

I am sorry, but the idea of a knighthood for a man who has contributed practically nothing to this marvellous nation of ours whilst costing the taxpayer in excess of £10m for police protection costs makes me nautious. Irrespective of your view on his work (for information my views revolve around his despicable purposeful provocation of religious tensions to increase his notoriety) I fail to understand how on earth anyone could come to the conclussion that he merits an honour such as this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southeast/halloffame/public_life/simon_weston.shtml

Measured against a true heroe such as Mr Simon Weston OBE, a man who has demonstrated courage of the highest magnitude proving an inspiration to the nation and despite his continuing charity work has still not been knighted surely it is time to ask ourselves, is it is time for the nation to vote for who should be honoured? Perhaps then there will be less opportunity for berks like Rushdie to take an honour such as this away from the real national heroes.

Discuss.....
Not sure where you got the figure of 10 million quid - I understood he paid for his own protection anyway.

Why not give him a knighthood - not exactly doing you any harm is it.
Ord_Sgt, for information I based my figure on the following article:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article665124.ece

Difficult to pin down the exact cost but the more reliable sources indicate a figure of about £1m per year from '89 to '98.

I take your point about his knighthood not doing me any harm; it's not as if I was about to pick one up. However, the point to my thread was surely there are more deserving candidates out there? Subjective I know but just interested in the consensus out there.
 
#6
Honours are generaly given to people who have spent a lifetime making money for themselves, sportsmen, singers, businessmen, authors, politicians ect, & the cash for Honours saga has brought the whole system into disrepute.
I see military Honours as a different kettle of fish though as they are not just in it for the money but sadly the system has been demeaned by the government.
 
#7
Ord_Sgt

Why not give him a knighthood - not exactly doing you any harm is it
Why not crown him! Why not give him the keys to the castle and all the toys.

What exactly has he done to deserve this high honour?
Because if he has not done anything substantial to deserve it, it is lowering this fine honour, thats what harm it does.
 
#8
apon waking to here the news the other morning,,the news that he was to receive a knighthood threw me into a foul mood all day
 
#9
Top_Crab said:
Honours are generaly given to people who have spent a lifetime making money for themselves, sportsmen, singers, businessmen, authors, politicians ect, & the cash for Honours saga has brought the whole system into disrepute.
I see military Honours as a different kettle of fish though as they are not just in it for the money but sadly the system has been demeaned by the government.
The thing is honour are given to be people who have been successful in their field. The fact that they have made money for themselves shouldn't be derided, its often part and parcel of the success, this has pretty much always been the case. As for the cash for honours thing, I must admit I always assumed it was taken as read that if you supported the government of the day with donations/time effort etc you would receive something nice and shiny from HM?
I agree with the military honours bit though, although in the old days generals/admirals etc got a lovel plot of land and a shiny mansion as well!
 
#11
Without wishing to contradict myself too much with regards to Rushdie purposefully provocating religious tensions to increase his notoriety, I have to admit that reading about the Iranian reaction to his knighthood did cheer me up considerably this morning.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6760927.stm

Nothing personal against the guy but I wish somebody would wipe that smug bloody grin off his face!
 
#12
pupgreen said:
apon waking to here the news the other morning,,the news that he was to receive a knighthood threw me into a foul mood all day...
yet another great reason to get off the treasured isle i used to call home.
im afraid its gone down the toilet....
Surely if the reason to leave UK was the honours system you might have left after Lord Archer or Lord Lucan?
 
#14
Bleachy said:
Without wishing to contradict myself too much with regards to Rushdie purposefully provocating religious tensions to increase his notoriety, I have to admit that reading about the Iranian reaction to his knighthood did cheer me up considerably this morning.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6760927.stm

Nothing personal against the guy but I wish somebody would wipe that smug bloody grin off his face!
Have you seen his missus ? You'd have a smug grin too!!!!
 
#15
Chaps, i have nothing on this afternoon, could you supply the weapon? I have some Muslim friends.
What has he done to deserve such an honour, there are doctors and nurses out there much more deserving, in fact a multitude of people.

RCGJ
 
#16
Redshaggydog said:
Ord_Sgt

Why not give him a knighthood - not exactly doing you any harm is it
Why not crown him! Why not give him the keys to the castle and all the toys.

What exactly has he done to deserve this high honour?
Because if he has not done anything substantial to deserve it, it is lowering this fine honour, thats what harm it does.
My point was who cares - it means nothing to me. Nothing fine about an honour that is worthless.
 
#17
But the problem is that whilst you do not think it means anything, most countries do and certainly some in our country still do.
 
#18
He is one of the most successfull and celerated authors writing in the English langage right now. His book Midnights Children won the Mann Booker Pize at the time, and the best prize winner in the twnty five years its been running.
His work covers a lot of ground from childrens fairy tales to the history of modern Indea post independance.

You could try reading some of his stuff before slagging him off. How many of you that are banging on about Satanic Verses have actuley read it?

Bobby Charlton was the Beckham of his day, and nobody bitchs about his gong. All he did was play a few good games. Why is Rushdie any differnet?
 
#19
He's one of Tony's cronies, thus the only surprise is he did'nt get one earlier. Its a f*ck*ng disgrace, he has given the square root of f*ck all to this country, only cost us all money protecting his worthless hide. The only good thing is its hacked off the sh*ts in Iran.
I am of the opinion that Bliar detests the honours system and is determined to destroy it by making awards to the honourless and valueless.
Who would want any honour awarded by his government? There is more honour in not getting an honour. Awards to the services being the exception.
Simon Weston has devoted 25 years to charity and is a national inspiration to courage and in puting others before self, (there must be some on ARRSE who know him), would he want a Bliar honour?
As a footnote Rushdie's books are just about unreadable, utter crap.
 
#20
clownbasher said:
Don't suppose any of you have actually read any of his novels, have you.
Without wishing to bore, I would suggest that his most interesting work was 'Imaginary Homelands' which I think showed the flexibilty of his writing as a literary reviewer but I found 'The Moor's Last Sigh' incredibly difficult to get into and eventually got bored half-way through.

In terms of the infamous 'Satanic Verses', I will admit that it was written in a fairly fun and playful manner but there is no doubt in my mind that he anticpated the strong reaction earning him his maximum publicity. Probably didn't expect a Fatwa though; silly tw*t!
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
58_Pattern The Intelligence Cell 31
N The Intelligence Cell 38
P Army Pay, Claims & JPA 15

Similar threads

Latest Threads

Top