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#2
Looks like 37 pattern webbing and a Home Guard cape.
 
#3
Forgot to say that the cape was introduced in late 1940.
 
#4
Though the small pack has the wrong straps (as usual).
 

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#6
Hope it's all labelled SAS/SF/Para/RM.
 
#7
Actually no , although I had some 58 that I labelled "AGC RLC SAS and cadets" just for a giggle

The description for the 58 webbnig I'm selling contains the disclaimer that I cannot say which regt used the webbing however it was last used by a local para det

The local para det is in fact acf , para badged non the less
 
#8
Tartan_Terrier said:
Looks like 37 pattern webbing and a Home Guard cape.
Cape,Anti-Gas

What did soldiers wear?
The British Infantryman wore a woollen battledress (trousers and short jacket), a belt with a non-reflecting buckle, a steel helmet covered with netting, black boots and anklets.



He carried a British .303 rifle and a gas mask, including anti-gas goggles and ointment. Various items were then carried in pouches: a first aid pouch on his belt and pouches on both sides of his chest for holding 60 rounds of ammunition or grenades. Attached to webbing on his back he carried a small haversack, a bayonet and sheath, a water bottle and a cup. He also carried a pack on his back, with an anti-gas waterproof cape rolled up on top of it. On his left trouser-leg, above his knee, was a large map pocket. What else?
 
#9
looking at the first picture.
What did the neighbours say when you were recreating Abu Ghraib in your back garden? 8O
 
#10
Ssh !! I have a delivery of butchers hooks and leadshot filled hosepipe coming next week, only hope next doors don't notice I have tapped into their electricity supply for the electric shock generator
 

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#11
Doesn't the lad own any shoes ?
 
#12
More to the point, how long was it before the lad clicked that it wasn't a genuine Batman outfit?
 
#13
firestarter said:
Tartan_Terrier said:
Looks like 37 pattern webbing and a Home Guard cape.
Cape,Anti-Gas

What did soldiers wear?
The British Infantryman wore a woollen battledress (trousers and short jacket), a belt with a non-reflecting buckle, a steel helmet covered with netting, black boots and anklets.



He carried a British .303 rifle and a gas mask, including anti-gas goggles and ointment. Various items were then carried in pouches: a first aid pouch on his belt and pouches on both sides of his chest for holding 60 rounds of ammunition or grenades. Attached to webbing on his back he carried a small haversack, a bayonet and sheath, a water bottle and a cup. He also carried a pack on his back, with an anti-gas waterproof cape rolled up on top of it. On his left trouser-leg, above his knee, was a large map pocket. What else?
Don't think so, look here: http://www.pegasusmilitaria.com/page21.html
 
#15
Tartan_Terrier said:
firestarter said:
Tartan_Terrier said:
Looks like 37 pattern webbing and a Home Guard cape.
Cape,Anti-Gas

What did soldiers wear?
The British Infantryman wore a woollen battledress (trousers and short jacket), a belt with a non-reflecting buckle, a steel helmet covered with netting, black boots and anklets.



He carried a British .303 rifle and a gas mask, including anti-gas goggles and ointment. Various items were then carried in pouches: a first aid pouch on his belt and pouches on both sides of his chest for holding 60 rounds of ammunition or grenades. Attached to webbing on his back he carried a small haversack, a bayonet and sheath, a water bottle and a cup. He also carried a pack on his back, with an anti-gas waterproof cape rolled up on top of it. On his left trouser-leg, above his knee, was a large map pocket. What else?
Don't think so, look here: http://www.pegasusmilitaria.com/page21.html
Yes indeed - the lad is wearing the predecessor to the poncho, known as the cape-groundsheet. The anti-gas cape was a very different beast. The ones I remember were cut just like the one in the illustration, but they were produced in a disruptive pattern camouflage. They were most unpleasant to wear as they were completely non-breathable. They were designed as a precaution against the liquid type of chemical agent.
 
#16
Yeah the cape or 'groundsheet' as it was known was still on issue to regular infantry units as recently (!!) as the mid 1960s. It was perhaps the most useless item of equipment ever issued. Too small to make a basha (had to button two together), too narrow to keep one off the ground, too short to use as a poncho. Most soldiers used it to keep their weapons dry. The anti-gas cape was a similar shape though oily in texture and smelly! Some were camouflage some were a dark brown/green colour.
 

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#18
ViroBono said:
Cutaway said:
Doesn't the lad own any shoes ?
Not required - he is demonstrating the new Bedfordshire Police mosque raiding kit (vide Current Affairs).
He does have socks on though, I thought it must be his costume as the poolboy/pizzadelivery boy in some dodgy french porn movie.
(I forget the title now, but ask Dozy, she has a vast collection of Frankie flicks.)
 
#19
We had capes like that when I was a cadet many years ago. They were known as gas capes and issued to troops during WW1 and carried on being issued for many years after.
The webbing yoke looks like 44 pattern webbing.I had a full set of this 44pat as a cadet and stupidly gave it away when I joined the real army.Shame cos it was,nt widely issued and worth a few bob to some walt now !! The sack is definatly 37 pattern.

Regards LT.
 
#20
Thanks guys , all this webbing came courtesy of the cadets, one of which is my son, the lad in the picture in fact

So if we could try to knock off the more close to the knuckle wise cracks that would be great
 
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