Kings Troop have found a new home

#2
Synergy said:
A horse has just told me that the troop will be moving to woolwich in the next few years
That's an awful long ride to Hyde Park!
 
#3
Well they will love that: stand by to see the horses being put out of action thanks to injuring themselves on the shite covering the local areas of grass (broken glass, used syringes, etc).

Mind you, the greatest danger is probably from the immigrants wanting to eat the horses and steal all the 'gold' from their uniforms.

I suspect the young officers will not welcome the attention of the local "ladies" quite as much as they do those of St Johns Wood and Hyde Park :)

I wonder how long it will take them to move the troop to Horseguards for a display?
 
#4
Dread said:
I suspect the young officers will not welcome the attention of the local "ladies" quite as much as they do those of St Johns Wood and Hyde Park :)
I predict injuries during the stampede as said "ladies" seek out new babydaddies for their rainbow offspring.
 
#6
Trooping The Colour Sat 14th June 2008. Amazed that the Officer Commanding and the Adjutant for Kings Troops RHA were female ????

Where have all the blokes gone
 
#7
Isn't it time this archaic anachronism was consigned to the history books?
They are nominally all qualified gunners, get them on the guns and out of Central London, poncing around on "walking Frikadellen"

We are short of troops , yet we allow 300 or so to do ceremonial duties, christ on the cross, even QCS do trigger time
 
#8
Darthspud - they are a recruiting tool, they do "trigger time" as you put it on attachments (the medals didn't come with the uniforms) and lastly - they're downright f*cking awesome to watch live bringing the guns into action and make every Gunners chest swell a good ten inches beyond the norm. Hands off the Troop - switch fire!

GOTW
 
#9
been there, seen it , got nine fingers left
Gunner meself, albeit TA
we don't operate horse drawn equipment, they are an anachronism
Yes, they are highly skilled, but so were the Royal Navy Gun Running teams
Didn't stop their Lordships from allowing them to be 'rationalised' and returned to the manpower pool.

I know all the arguments for keeping them, but they do not hold water.

Even the Red Arrows have to make do with pilots for less then normal time, and they are seriously in jeopardy of being 'rationalised' and they do far more PR for HMF than Kings Troop could ever hope to achieve.

Reality is , we need soldiers , not jockeys and girls /boys who join up to play with ponies.
 
#10
When ther are no Ceremonial vists taking place etc, what do KTRHA do.
 
#11
Is it confirmed that King's Troop RHA are moving to Woolwich or is it just another LonDist rumour?
 
#12
Waste of public funds.
And yes I know the "they keep the gunners in the public eye" dribble, people who watch that and are impressed tend to be holding mum's hand while they pick their nose with the other free hand.
The money this lot soak up would be better spent on operational kit or welfare packages.

:x
 
#13
Oh will you just f*ck off

Ceremonial is awesome, whether it be the Wooden Tops or the Drop shorts, or for that matter any mob on public duties.

They are good for Tourism (quite big in London town)

They are good for recruitment

And if nothing else they put the army (both ceremonial & operational) on Prime time TV for the best part of 2 hours on a Saturday morning raising public awarness.

Stop being so f*cking churlish and just accept them as a f*cking good KAPE tool

As for the female OC, Adjt comment, welcome to the modern army we have split arrses 8O doing the do wherever we are deployed
 

Fugly

LE
DirtyBAT
#14
Christ, some Arrsers other than Sven really do vote Labour.

Kings Troop - as much as donkey walloping is not my thing - is a priceless asset to the Army, with all the traditions it upholds. I appreciate the arguments about "we need these trained gunners on the front line" but we've only been seriously stretched in the sandy places since 2002 - do you fuckwits seriously want to bin hundreds of years of ceremonial history over a half-decade spat in the sandpit? Last time I checked, far far more soldiers had died in conflicts that are commemorated by the ceremonial duties carried out in London than what we are currently involved in.

Losing the Royal Tournament was a fucking travesty, lets not let the rot spread further.
 

Fugly

LE
DirtyBAT
#15
inbredyokel666 said:
The money this lot soak up would be better spent on operational kit or welfare packages. :x
So we'll bin the whole Ceremonial agenda then. We'll just do Ops. Cancel all Army Sport, re-align the PT Corps to train for battle fitness only, cancel all adventure training. No public parades, no recruitment, no jollies. Just Ops.

Grow up, you twat
 
#16
Fugly said:
inbredyokel666 said:
The money this lot soak up would be better spent on operational kit or welfare packages. :x
So we'll bin the whole Ceremonial agenda then. We'll just do Ops. Cancel all Army Sport, re-align the PT Corps to train for battle fitness only, cancel all adventure training. No public parades, no recruitment, no jollies. Just Ops.

Grow up, you twat
No, please get down of that fence Fugly, you will get splinters :D :D :D
 

Fugly

LE
DirtyBAT
#17
CAARPS said:
No, please get down of that fence Fugly, you will get splinters :D :D :D
Who likes sitting on a fence, anyway? They're thin, uncomfortable, and you get splinters. Better to just jump down and squash the nearest worm :D
 
#18
Oh wow...I take back everything I said.
After all of these well thought out, (not in the least a tired regurgitated arguments); I've come round to the idea that this lot are so worth it.

Hundreds of years of pomp and tradition?
Jesus Christ I’ve heard this for years and years, does any of you lot try think realistically?
At the point of stating the obvious (which I'm doing because you lot have your collective heads in the sand). HM Forces are in a very long haul fight, lumbered with a govt that couldn't give a sh*t about its service men and women.
And even though The Tories are making all the right noises, I’ll be bowled over if any significant change comes of their entry to office.
Taken as a whole, they’re a black hole on funds when money could be better spent elsewhere: Kit, phones, internet access, R&R packages, welfare packages, or more ammo.

They’re good for tourism…in your mind!
The Tower of London is good for tourism. St Paul’s is good for tourism. The London Eye is good for tourism; Edinburgh Castle is good for tourism.
Ask any tourist if they know about those land marks you’ll get a qualified “yes”, ask them about Kings Troop RHA, you’ll get a puzzled stare.
The Weatherspoons in Leicester Square generates more capital and interest from tourists than this lot.
The only folk that want see that sort of thing are former members, romantic idiots with no concept of what an army is and horsey types.
Anyone trying to join the regular army based on watching that lot doing the equestrian equivalent of synchronised swimming should be given a talking about what the rest of the gunners do on deployment.

“So we'll bin the whole Ceremonial agenda then. We'll just do Ops. Cancel all Army Sport, re-align the PT Corps to train for battle fitness only, cancel all adventure training. No public parades, no recruitment, no jollies. Just Ops”.

I didn’t suggest anything of the kind…trying to give the Kings Troop relevance by suggesting they’re as necessary a PT, shows your limited grasp of the modern world, and the straws you’ll clutch at to make your point.
And trying to compare Kings Troop to the Guards and the Cavalry, who do public ceremony, but who have always undertaken ops is an insult to anyone within these units.
And having seen the state of the troop at RSA, I would contend a f**k lot of PT is necessary

Units are short of kit, op/post op support, pay, decent accommodation, people and funds, soldiers are leaving in record numbers citing frustration/anger/disillusionment.
But somehow, Kings Troop manages to justify a budget
It has no relevance whatsoever today.
An ambidextrous rifle might.
 

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#19
Inbredyokel ( and how well named you are).

I take it you are a leading light in the Fabian Society.

IMHO there is very little left for the forces to show off in the public light. Just about all we have now is Trooping the Colour and the Edinburgh Tattoo, and even the Tattoo now has fewer and fewer service personnel and is becoming more of a civilian variety show.

Keep the ceremonial aspects of service life, keep our forces in the public eye. If these disappear then it will just make it even easier for Broon and his type to carve away elements of the service as people will have forgotten we have an Army, Navy and bunch of growbags.
 

Fugly

LE
DirtyBAT
#20
inbredyokel666 said:
Units are short of kit, op/post op support, pay, decent accommodation, people and funds, soldiers are leaving in record numbers citing frustration/anger/disillusionment.
But somehow, Kings Troop manages to justify a budget
It has no relevance whatsoever today.
An ambidextrous rifle might.
It's painfully obvious you have a grudge against Kings Troop in particular. Get refused entry, did we? I'm glad that they manage to "justify" a budget - have you considered that we should be campaigning for a budget that actually allows us to both keep up our ceremonial traditions and deploy on Ops?

Your answer reeks of blinkered political penny pinching. You don't like them - so what? I bet they're not a fan of you either.
 
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