kings royal rifle corps

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  1. hi, anyone out there have any info on the krrc? just checked out the green jacket website and it just mentions a few engagements during ww2. im writing to the army personnel centre to get a copy of grandfathers service records.has anyone out there researched them before? any info would be helpful
  2. The KRRC still exists as a cadet unit in camden. PM me and i can give you some useful addresses.

    Cheers PTI
  3. I wrote a paper a few years ago on one of their predecessor regiments (I believe it was the 60th, long time ago now though), so I've got some books gathering dust somewhere on the topic.

    If you give me a PM with what you want I'll see what I can dig up.
  4. F (RGJ) Company. Londons, are the succesors to the KRRC. Davies Street Drill Hall has the badge scattered about.
  5. Just been to Dover Castle and in the wartime tunnel system, someone carved KRRC - 1936 into the chalk wall.
  6. cheers , i phoned records in glasgow this week , requesting both grandfathers service records. all i know is that one of them served in 1st bn krrc - dunkirk escaped , was pow , invalided out of army in 44- but will find out soon! the other one was a chindit in burma , have a mint photo of him in uniform .
  7. The KRRC Cadet Bn are based in Davies Street, the old 4RGJ & Queen Victorias Rifles HQ. They are the only cadet Bn to have a battle honour - South Africa

    BB - shame on you. The successors to the KRRC are officially just the RGJ. Historically though, Davies St (QVRs) Fulham (Queens Westinsters, Civil Service Rifles) West Ham (Rangers) are decendants of a TA Rifle Reg that was affiliated to the KRRC.

    Slopey Shoulders - 1KRRC didn't fight at Dunkirk, they spent the whole War in the Middle East and Italy. 2KRRC was captured at Calais (1940) and reformed to fight in the Middle East, Italy then NW Europe. 1 QVR was captured at Calais as well, and was a KRRC Bn. Are you sure he wasn't with them?
  8. to be really honest i dont know. my aunties birth cert stated that her father was 1 krrc . i am waiting for records to send me details - family rumour has it that he was a dunkirk and escaped in a french fishing boat , maybe after 2 krrc was decimated in 1940 it was restructured and men went into another bn? i dont know i did find out that 2nd bn krrc and the 1st bn rifle bde were part of 30th inf div of the dunkirk ghq reserve, 1 krrc fought at sidi rezegh , italy ,greece, crete ,nw europe, austria. but as soon as i recieve his records i will post more on this site!
  9. From

    Former Regiments:
    The King's Royal Rifle Corps (60th)

    Formative Years in North America
    On 8th July 1755 a column of British redcoats under General Braddock, advancing to take Fort Duquesne on the Ohio River were ambushed by the French and their Red Indian Allies firing from concealed positions. The dying General`s last words `we shall learn better how to do it next time`, sum up the reaction at home to this defeat, for within a few months a special Act of Parliament had provide for the raising of the 60th Royal American Regiment of four battalions of American colonists. Among the distinguished foreign officers given commisions was Henri Bouquet, a Swiss citizen, whose ideas on tactics, training and man-management (including the unofficial introduction of the rifleand `battle-dress`) were to become universal inthe Army only after another 150 years. The new regiment fought at Louisborg in 1758 and Quebec in 1759 inthe campaign which finally wrested Canada from France; at Quebec it won from Wolfe the motto `Celer et Audax` (Swift and Bold). These were conventional battles on the European model, but the challenge of Pontiac`s Red Indian rebellion in 1763 was of a very different character and threatened the British control of North America. The new regiment at first lost several outlying garrisons but finally proved its mastery of forest warfare under Bouquets leadership at the decisive victory of Bushey Run.

    The West Indies
    Meanwhile, battalions of the regiment were engaged in the capture of Martinique and Havana and, being confined top foreign service until 1824, began an association with the West Indies which was to last almost continuously for over fifty years and include the capture of another eight islands.

    The American War of Independence (1774-82)
    Two battalions fought in the war, formed a force of mounted infantry to increase their mobility and crowned a series successful actions by repulsing an assault by the French and Rebels in Savannah in Georgia and capturing the colour of their Carolina Regiment. Neither battalion was present at the surrender at Yorktown and they were withdrawn to Canada when hostilities ended.

    The Fifth Battalion
    In 1797 a 5th Battalion of the 60th was raised under Baron Francis de Rottenburg, whose treatise on Riflemen and Light Infantry formed the basis of Moore`s training. This was the first British unit to be dressed in thr green jacket and armed with the rifle in place of the smoothbore musket and it represented the first British attempt at developing specialised light infantry for the European battlefield.

    The Peninsula War (1808-14)
    When Wellesley landed in Portugal in 1808 5/60th was the first unit ashore at Montego Bay and at the start it was brigaded with the 95th to form a brigade of Riflemen. Wellesley`s standing orders laid down that these two units should always form the vanguard when the army moved. The rifle battalions fought in this formation at the opening battles of Obidos and Rolicabut shortly afterwards the Light Brigade was re-formed and Wellesley ordered the 60th in the 3rd Division to provide a company to cover each of the other brigades of his force. It was in this role that they fought the remaining battles of the Peninsula campaign, sixteen of whose names appear on the 60th list of battle honours.

    Imperial Campaigns
    The defeat of Napoleon was followed by over thirty years of peace during which the regiment changed its title, first to The Duke of Yorks Own Rifle Corps, and finally in 1830, to The Kings Royal Rifle Corps (KRRC), though throuhout its life it was often known familiarly as the 60th Rifles. In 1858 the Rifle Depot was established at Winchester as a headquarters and training centre for the KRRC and the Rifle Brigade.

    After 1848 the regiment was engaged in many of the Imperial campaigns which characterised the nineteenth century. The 1st Battalion at Mooltan Goojerat in the Sikh Wars and the 2nd in the Kaffir Wars in South Africa, where a detachment stood along side that of the 43rd at the sinking of the Birkenhead. In the next thirty year the regiment saw service in China, Canada, Afghanistan, India, Burma and South Africa and the period produced another great innovator in the shape of Robert Hawley, who developed Bouquets principles of self-reliance and initiative particularly by encouragement of hunting expeditions as basic training in good fieldcraft, while commanding the 4th Battalion in Canada.

    The Indian Mutiny (1857-59)
    The outbreak of the Indian Mutiny in 1857 found the 1st Battalion at Meerut, where they narrowly escaped a plot to massacre them while unarmed at church parade. Having driven the mutineers from the town they marched under the command of Colonel `Jones the Avenger` to besiege Delhi. On the ridge outside the town they formed a lasting alliance with the Sirmoor Goorhas and in the final assualt on the Kashmir Gate they gave covering fire to the 2nd as they stormed the breach before themselves taking the Royal Palace after six days of street fighting. Seven VCs were won in the campaign in which the rear party at Meerut maintained the tradition for innovation by forming an elephant corps for pacification of the surrounding countryside.

    The Warren Hastings
    In 1897 the troopship Warren Hastings carrying the 1st Battalion from Capetown to Maurtius was wrecked on the island of Reunion. Discipline reminiscent of the Birkenhead was rewarded by the safe landing of the whole battalion over the rocks, and the ship`s bell and wheel are are preserved in the regiment today to commmemorate the event.

    The South African Wars (1899-1902)
    Three battalions fought the Boers between 1899 and 1902, their many actions including both the defence and relief of Ladysmith. At Talans Hill and Twin Peaks the `modern` infantry skirmishing tactics which the regiment had been practicing for 100 years were met with brilliant success while the constant quest for mobility led to the 60th taking a leading role in the development of mounted infantry; it formed a complete MI battalion and one of its officers founded the Mounted Infantry School at Aldershot.

    World War 1 (1914-18)
    In 1914-15 the regiment expanded to twenty-two battalions, not counting those with training and reserve rolls at home. Fighting in the early months still favoured the traditional Rifleman`s skills of fire and movement and in 1914 at Hautesvesnes 1 KRRC used them to distroy a whole German battalion. The later stages were not conducive to tactical innovation, but marksmanship developed in peacetime was an invaluable asset at a time of ascendancy of fire over manoeuvre. The vast majority of the regiments effort was devoted to the Western Front, where it gained eight VCs, 2128 other decorations and seventy- one Battle Honours at a cost 12.824 dead.

    Mechanised Infantry
    After 1918 the Service Battalions were disbanded and the Regulars returned to garrison duties and `peacekeeping` in India, Palestine and Ireland. In 1926 the regiment was chosen for the first mechanised infantry trials, which were to lead to its reorganisation, with the Rifle Brigade, into motor battalions to operate with armoured brigades in time for World War II.

    World War II
    The war opened disastrously with the dispatch of the 2nd Battalion together with 1st Rifle Brigade and Queen Victoria`s Rifles (an affiliated Territorial Battlion) to defend Calais and prevent German armour from interfering in the evacuation of the British Expeditionary Force from Dunkirk. For three vital days the force held on before being overwhelmed; the regiment had lost one of it`s two regular battalions as soon as the war started.

    Thereafter matters improved; motor battalions played a central roll in the open warfare of the North African desert, where mobility and initiative could make there mark. At Sidi Rezegh Rifleman Beeley won a postumous VC in a successful attack by 1 KRRC against great odds.Once the desert campaign was won battalion fought on through Italy and North West Europe to Austria and Germany and also saw desperate fighting in Greece and Crete. The origins of the regiment were recalled early in the war by the incorporation of sixteen American volunteers before their own nation had entered the war.

    The Post-War Years
    After service in Italy, Tripoli and Palestine the regiment was reduced to a single battalion in 1948 but the 2nd was reformed two years later, when both resumed their motor battalion roll in Germany. The 1st moved to North Africa in 1955 after celebrating theregiments bicentenary at Winchester, while the 2nd was again disbanded in 1957. Finally, in 1958, the battalion joined the new Green Jacket Brigade with the title 2nd Green Jackets (The Kings Royal Rifle Corps). It took part in the Borneo Campaign in 1965.
  10. Slopey Shoulders - 2KRRC was reformed after Calais using survivors, TA, and recruits from the Rifle Depot at Winchester. 1KRRC never fought in Greece or Crete, that was 9KRRC (The Rangers, a London TA Rifle Bn).

    Hope you get his records soon. Keep us updated