Kicking the RSM outta the mess

#1
About to dine the RSM out (on commissioning) in full Regie Dinner style. Can anyone advise on extra protocol that needs to be observed for the event. (Yes im pinged as PMC). Im particulary interested in...

Who presides over the event?

Does he have to be out at midnight s o everyone else parties on?

His replacement being at the event?

Thanks
 
#2
Old_Sam said:
About to dine the RSM out (on commissioning) in full Regie Dinner style. Can anyone advise on extra protocol that needs to be observed for the event. (Yes im pinged as PMC). Im particulary interested in...

Who presides over the event?

Does he have to be out at midnight s o everyone else parties on?

His replacement being at the event?

Thanks
1. Normally a senior WO1 (ASM, FofS, YofS for example)
2. No - he will normally be lobbed out to the Officers' Mess, but come back into the Sgts' Mess later.
3. His replacement should most definatley NOT be there (in my opinion)
 
#3
Santa_Sunday said:
1. Normally a senior WO1 (ASM, FofS, YofS for example)
2. No - he will normally be lobbed out to the Officers' Mess, but come back into the Sgts' Mess later.
3. His replacement should most definatley NOT be there (in my opinion)
I can't see why not, unless he's being posted in. If he's already in the unit, why shouldn't he be there?
 
#4
Tartan_Terrier said:
Santa_Sunday said:
1. Normally a senior WO1 (ASM, FofS, YofS for example)
2. No - he will normally be lobbed out to the Officers' Mess, but come back into the Sgts' Mess later.
3. His replacement should most definatley NOT be there (in my opinion)
I can't see why not, unless he's being posted in. If he's already in the unit, why shouldn't he be there?
I agree, the incumbent RSM will usually be one of the senior Sergeant Majors in the Regiment anyway, or the RQMS. So if he is in station he is perfectly entitled to be present at the dine out.



Edited once: coz i'm a spaccer!!
 
#5
Tartan_Terrier said:
Santa_Sunday said:
1. Normally a senior WO1 (ASM, FofS, YofS for example)
2. No - he will normally be lobbed out to the Officers' Mess, but come back into the Sgts' Mess later.
3. His replacement should most definatley NOT be there (in my opinion)
I can't see why not, unless he's being posted in. If he's already in the unit, why shouldn't he be there?
Because I don't think it's appropriate, especially if he is posted in. If he is a WO2 in the unit who will move across as RSM once the old badge has gone, then maybe that's a different matter.

As I said - that's my opinion, I didn't say I was right though.
 

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#6
Santa_Sunday said:
Old_Sam said:
About to dine the RSM out (on commissioning) in full Regie Dinner style. Can anyone advise on extra protocol that needs to be observed for the event. (Yes im pinged as PMC). Im particulary interested in...

Who presides over the event?

Does he have to be out at midnight s o everyone else parties on?

His replacement being at the event?

Thanks
1. Normally a senior WO1 (ASM, FofS, YofS for example)
2. No - he will normally be lobbed out to the Officers' Mess, but come back into the Sgts' Mess later.
3. His replacement should most definatley NOT be there (in my opinion)
In my rather humble opinion the incoming Badge should definitly be there if only to:

a. If the outgoing was good - the reception he gets and the standard the newbie should aspire to :sunny:

b. If the outgoing was not good - first glance at what needs changed! :ncool:

c. Ensure that bridges are maintained between WOs &Sgts Mess (engineroom of any good unit) and the "Other Place" :love:
 
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On ejecting the RSM to the "Other Place" , try not to break his nose on the door frame. Ahemm
 

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#8
The_Kurgen said:
On ejecting the RSM to the "Other Place" , try not to break his nose on the door frame. Ahemm
Depends solely on how many 'extras' he gave you 8)
 
#9
Was a genuine accident in a moment of drunken enthusiasm,
Would like to be able to Big Time it , however it is not the case
 
#10
I have been to two recently. The incoming RSM was not at either but he was not yet at the unit. I would suggest he shouldn't be at the dinner unless already in post there.. he will have his night at his dining in.

The QM was at one though this is not norm. But he did know the RSM personally so gave a farewell speach and ensured that the other place was outside our mess at 0001 to escort the badge out. Once out I have never known the Badge to come back. Out going badge still presides his own dinner night.

dont forget to take his jacket off him so he can be given one with pips by his new PMC.
 
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COMMSRUS said:
I have been to two recently. The incoming RSM was not at either but he was not yet at the unit. I would suggest he shouldn't be at the dinner unless already in post there.. he will have his night at his dining in.

The QM was at one though this is not norm. But he did know the RSM personally so gave a farewell speach and ensured that the other place was outside our mess at 0001 to escort the badge out. Once out I have never known the Badge to come back. Out going badge still presides his own dinner night.

dont forget to take his jacket off him so he can be given one with pips by his new PMC.
Good Admin by the above mess it appears..... :D
 
#12
Who presides over the event? The PMC.

Does he have to be out at midnight s o everyone else parties on? No but if you do then invite him back in.

His replacement being at the event? No he should not be there.
 
#13
We moved ours to the officers mess by wheelie bin...nice touch
 
#14
It pays to ensure the Offrs Mess has an appropriate "welcome" awaiting him..... (It's never too soon to give him a healthy start with his mess bill)
 
#15
The_Kurgen said:
Was a genuine accident in a moment of drunken enthusiasm,
Would like to be able to Big Time it , however it is not the case
Jesus. I've met you, and I can imagine that not being a pleasent experience :D
 
#16
Praetorian said:
The_Kurgen said:
Was a genuine accident in a moment of drunken enthusiasm,
Would like to be able to Big Time it , however it is not the case
Jesus. I've met you, and I can imagine that not being a pleasent experience :D
Try working for the fcuker :)
 
#17
Old_Sam said:
About to dine the RSM out (on commissioning) in full Regie Dinner style. Can anyone advise on extra protocol that needs to be observed for the event.

Above all, make sure there's enough seats for everyone attending, so 9 of you dont look like twits running round trying to get a non-existant seat before the C.O. comes in! 8O
 
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#18
There was a good documentry on a few years back, about Army 'traditions'. In one episode, the RSM of 2 QUEENS at Minden, who was to be commissioned, was lobbed out of the window at midnight. Luckily, only from the ground floor. Thereafter, he wasn't allowed back in unless invited.

As far as I recall, the RSM generally leaves the Mess at midnight and on one or two occasions, there's been a 'reception commitee' waiting outside to march him up to the Officers Mess, where he has a quick change of Mess dress jacket and there has been a small gathering of Officers to welcome him into the Officer's Mess. Takes a wee bit of organising and willing participation. All depends upon what unit you are in I suppose.

Can you not look back into what has happened before with commissioned RSMs and get some pointers from there.

I'm not about his replacement being present.

Have a cracking night and ensure that it's a memorable one as well!
 

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