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error_unknown

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All those poor fatherless children :x :cry:
Did these soldiers never hear of condoms?! :roll:
Obviously there's a big rolling rape bandwagon here...
but there ARE now all those unknown sons and daughters of soldiers. :cry:
If the British Army doesn't want the embarrasment of such cases perhaps it should learn to control and moderate the behaviour of it's men better.
Less alcohol, more condoms and encouraging a greater respect for ALL women for starters. :x
 
Well, there's another ITD........
 
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vespa

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i would demand a DNA testing you never know the half caste kids mite sprogs of the local whites who have since scarped to UK or Rhodesia (before zim) etc etc balcks can also be prositutes u know its an equal opportunity thing !
 
There's already an ITD for sex education in the form of ITD 8 health & hygiene. One of the options is a sex Ed element, but most units due to other commitments choose to gloss over it & just tick the relevant box.

All troops prior to a tour of a perceived high risk area are supposed to receive such presentation, plus be accompanied by a specialist in sexual health. However for the last 18 months, due to staff shortages & OPs getting priority there has been no GU cover.
 

woody

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I distantly remeber talking to a nurse in the early nineties who worked
on an aids ward and said his patients consisted of homosexuals and soldiers who had been to kenya .Dont know truth about this but it was just
a comment about work load .
 
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vespa

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looks like bongo bongo land is going to be empty before the century is over due to all the AIDS business leaving it open for recolonisation
 

woody

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nice idea mate but they getting cheap drugs and listening to ideas about
using condoms whatever the women hating child molesters in the vatican says. :D sorry bit of religouses intolerence their must redo my eq training :D
 

RangiRam

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The bottom line is that there will always be squaddies who put their thang where they shouldn't with no thought of the consequences to them or anyone else. Did I say squaddies? Sorry, I meant men...OK, boys...

With the increasing numbers of military tourists returning to Africa - Kenya, Sierra Leone, DRC - it is no wonder they are picking up more exotic diseases, with pretty serious consequences.

Sorry to get off the original thread slightly, and I certainly do not mean this in any racist, non-PC or non-EO way, but do you suppose any of the recuiters have given any thought to the likelihood of the increasing numbers of F & C soldiers from Africa (Ghana, Zim' and SL) might have had some exposure to AIDS? Without wishing to scare the horses, the estimate of 15-30 year olds in Zim with AIDS is well above 35% with some estimattes nearer 50%.

Perhaps someone from DPS(A) or the mediacl services could give us a view on screening?
 
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error_unknown

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RangiRam said:
Without wishing to scare the horses, the estimate of 15-30 year olds in Zim with AIDS is well above 35% with some estimattes nearer 50%.
Looks like any individual who has taken risks should just go and get themselves tested if they haven't already!
This isn't just an issue to play around and wait for policy makers to make decisions on- it's mostly a personal one surely?


ps -I was scolded for my assumption on an earlier post that the mixed race kids are children of soldiers..no reason to suppose they are at all...sawry :oops:
 
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Toerag

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Pox Dr, do you work for that infamous Indian RAMC Col. If so are you referring to his letter, to do with the importation of AIDS into the military by our latest recruiting policies. I understand that a certain SG is still suffering palpitations from the fall out. What’s the big plan, screen all recruits as suggested in the letter or pretend its not happening.
 

RangiRam

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You heard the lady guys...go get the check. In the meantime, keep it in yer trousers!
 
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Toerag

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Did any one read the Mail on Sunday about a week or so ago.

Intreasting article claiming 35 soldiers diagnosed with AIDS in the last 2 yrs.

It states 4 soldiers from LI have contracted the virus from Kenya in the last 2 yrs & 12 Soldiers from Guards Regt (? which 1) have been diagnosed following training in Belize.

Any comments any1.
 

Fred_Karno

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Only four of the five Guards Regiments have been to Belize in the last few years, and I'm pretty sure that one of those four is clear of any mini AIDS epidemic as I'm in it and none of the blokes I know have caught the bug, despite all seemingly sleeping with the same slappers (sometimes at the same time) every saturday night. Regarding the other three Regiments, 12 bods going down with the dreaded lurgy is something that we'd have probably heard about across the Brigade by now, even if they didn't mention it in the front editorial of The Guards Magazine. You did mention that your source was The Mail on Sunday. A quality rag I'm sure if you want to read about the social shenanigans of C List Celebrities and Minor Royals, but not something I'd trust for proper news stories. Still, kick the Army anyway - always an easy target.

Regarding the lawyer bringing these allegations to light. I recall seeing him on the electric television a few months back and even he was saying that it was hard to identify genuine claimants in his quest for justice as the word had got out amongst the locals that the bank was open and Tommy Atkins was about to pay out. For 'genuine claimants' substitute 'claimants with a likelihood of getting some easy cash from a Government too spineless / idle to follow up any investigation beyond the most basic details' and I think you'll get the picture. Oh and change 'justice' to 'huge lawyers fees'.

Cynical? Me?
 
Toerag said:
Did any one read the Mail on Sunday ...
Intreasting article claiming 35 soldiers diagnosed with AIDS in the last 2 yrs.... 4 soldiers from LI .. in the last 2 yrs & 12 Soldiers from Guards Regt....
Having only recently seen the article myself & being the guy that puts these figures together, I can assure you there is no recent LI or Gdsm with HIV and no 35 new cases of HIV in the last 2 years. There has been an increase, but nothing like quoted. The article hints that their source is in Aldershot possibly AMD, well I suggest the Mail on Sunday gets a new source as this one hasn’t got a clue.

How much does a confidential source get now days. :twisted:
 
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error_unknown

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-832219,00.html
MILITARY investigators believe that at least 37 tribeswomen have been raped by British soldiers training in Kenya.
The Royal Military Police are believed to be considering charges against two serving soldiers — one for rape and one, a senior officer, for allegedly failing to report rape by his subordinates. A dozen other officers face investigation for covering up reports of sexual assaults by their men
So if this report is accurate..37 suspected cases of rape..only one possible prosecution.
The rape allegations surfaced after Martyn Day, a British lawyer, obtained £4.5 million for nomadic herdsmen injured by unexploded ordnance that the Army allegedly left on firing ranges.
How efficient at recording locations and quantities and clearing up of ordnance afterwards is the British Army? :?
 

woody

LE
The army is fairly good the ranges are used by other countries apart from uk and also by kenyan forces . Also local custom like sticking bits of shiny metal onto there walking sticks so would actively seek out unexploded ordiance and mess with it . Plus mod opens check book
every one wants a bit .A place like that some casualties probably from uk
weapons but % of claims which are true difficult to prove and 4.5 million is probably the cheapist way to end claim
 

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