Kent State professor claims victory by Osama

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It looks like the Professor's blog site has been hacked; it immediately redirects you to Defend America, a Defense Department website on deployed troops.
 

Nehustan

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Well he sure as shit better check out of the window for National Guard before he sets off on his homeward journey...
 
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Virgil said:
It looks like the Professor's blog site has been hacked; it immediately redirects you to Defend America, a Defense Department website on deployed troops.
After reading this I checked both websites as I posted them and went right to the ones that I posted.

Nehustan:

Yes, now that would be great! They are long overdue in his case! :pissedoff:
 

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Trip_Wire said:
Virgil said:
It looks like the Professor's blog site has been hacked; it immediately redirects you to Defend America, a Defense Department website on deployed troops.
After reading this I checked both websites as I posted them and went right to the ones that I posted.

Nehustan:

Yes, now that would be great! They are long overdue in his case! :pissedoff:
Well its got to be better than shooting students, just.
 
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Trip_Wire said:
Kent State (Ohio) professor claims victory by Osama over the US in 2007.
The guy's obviously an arse. The USA defeated by a diabetic arthritic Saudi Arabian pensioner? Pish!
 
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CardinalSin said:
Trip_Wire said:
Kent State (Ohio) professor claims victory by Osama over the US in 2007.
The guy's obviously an arse. The USA defeated by a diabetic arthritic Saudi Arabian pensioner? Pish!
Come 1st Jan 08 and the US is still there will it change to another date or will it be like the end of the world nut “an error in the reading of the signs”.

My link went to him but then went to Defend America.
 
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Trip_Wire said:
Virgil said:
It looks like the Professor's blog site has been hacked; it immediately redirects you to Defend America, a Defense Department website on deployed troops.
After reading this I checked both websites as I posted them and went right to the ones that I posted.

Nehustan:

Yes, now that would be great! They are long overdue in his case! :pissedoff:
TW, I meant the blog kept by the Kent State prof in question, mentioned in the first article, keeps being redirected: global-war.bloghi.com
 
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Nutty as a fruitcake. Still, as long as you have the 1st Amendment, it's one of those things you're going to have to put up with- you have plenty of people on the other side of the coin, with much bigger megaphones, calling for the blood of Muslims.

I don't know what Kent State can do about the situation. The blog is not associated with the university and what an employee chooses to say on their own free time, is, to a large extent, their own business.

Reading around, however, it does appear that he might take his one-eyed approach into the classroom- using Jewish students especially as stool pigeons. Not exactly professional, but since as an Associate Professor he'll probably have tenure and is thus difficult to fire except in the face of gross professional misconduct. (This is one reason for having the tenure system- to avoid the pressure of intellectual orthodoxy- if a professor's work/teachings turn out to be absurd, then peer revue tends to limit his career significantly in fairly short order and he'll stop being taken seriously. In effect, it's a bit like depriving a fire of oxygen.) Put very simply, if Kent State wants him out, they'll be best off pursuing him on victimization of students- if that's what's going on.

As Virgil has pointed out, the blog has been hacked, so it's going to be hard to judge just how aburd his ramblings are.

By the way, in case anybody is wondering about why people are talking about the Ohio National Guard, it's because on 04May70, four students were killed and nine wounded when Guardsmen open fired on anti-Vietnam war protesters. Two of the four killed were not even part of the demonstration, they were just walking to class. One of those two was even an ROTC student.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
 
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Some more websites on the weird Proffesor.

http://movingoutmovingon.bloghi.com...ulio-pino-attention-asking-for-your-help.html

http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2141

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24623_Jihad_Professor_at_Kent_State&only

As crabtastic mentioned, some info about the Vietnam Kent State incident with the NG.

Allison Krause (April 23, 1951 - May 4, 1970) was a student at Kent State University, Ohio when she was shot and killed by the Ohio National Guard in the Kent State shootings, while protesting the Vietnam war. The Guardsmen opened fire on a group of unarmed students, killing four of them, at an average distance of about 345 feet. Allison was shot in the back at about 343 feet (105 meters) fatally wounding her.

Jeffrey Glenn Miller (March 28, 1950–May 4, 1970) was a student at Kent State University, Ohio At the time of his death, Miller had recently transferred to Kent State from Michigan State University.

Of the four students killed at Kent State that day, Miller was standing closest to the Guardsmen. He was shot in the mouth by a single rifle bullet facing the Guardsmen while standing in an access road leading into the Prentice Hall parking lot at a distance of approximately 270 feet


Sandra Lee Scheuer (pronounced SHAW-yer) (August 11, 1949 - May 4, 1970) was a 20-year-old student at Kent State University in Kent, Ohio, when she was killed by Ohio National Guardsmen in the Kent State shootings, on May 4, 1970.

Scheuer, born in Youngstown, Ohio, was an honors student in speech therapy. She did not take part in the Vietnam War protests that preceded the shootings. She was shot through the throat with an M-1 rifle from a distance of 130 yards (119 meters) while walking from one class to the next.


William Knox Schroeder (July 20, 1950 - May 4, 1970) was a student at Kent State University, Ohio, when he was killed by Ohio National Guardsmen in the Kent State shootings on May 4, 1970.

Schroeder was born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio. At age 17, Schroeder applied for the Army Reserve Officer Training Corps Scholarship. He received the Academic Achievement award from both the Colorado School of Mines and from Kent State University, where he was a psychology student. He also earned the Association of the United States Army award for excellence in history.

Schroeder was killed with a shot in the back from an M-1 semi-automatic military rifle. According to reports, he was not taking part in the Vietnam War protests that preceded the shootings, but simply going from one class to the next.
 
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So this bloke's ramblings aren't the first weird things to come out of Kent State. (Actually an old boss of mine did too- got his PhD there and did 27yrs at CIA- he was definitely fcuking weird. On top of the usual spook stuff, he a was British born-naturalised American; he was the son of a British diplomat but spoke English with a vaguely German accent; and he was a Middle Eastern specialist of all things.)
 
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Sounds like a douchebag, but he's harmless. The best way to deal with folks like him is to simply ignore them
 
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Not sure about ignoring him being a good idea, Chief. he is in a position where he can influence a lot of impressionable young minds. I think, on the contrary, he has to be shown up and it be demonstrated that he's a nutcase. It's fine to have a point of view, but others have the inalienable right, if not a responsibility to challenge that view.

The reason I tend to go off at right wingers here is because at my day job, I make a point of choking down the bile and telling the other side of the story as impartially as I can. Despite some assertions by others to the contrary, I've never proclaimed myself to be the font of all knowledge and I have no problem at all with being proven wrong. I was always taught that if you have a good teacher you won't be able to tell their political views. The head of my dept at my orientation as an undergrad said "we don't teach you what to think, we teach you how to think". At the end of the day, there's a fundamental difference between a thinker, who by nature has only themselves and their ideas to worry about, and an educator, who has a responsibility to others- to inform them of as many options and ideas as the student can handle, and then let the student draw their own conclusions.

I like to think that holds true in most cases. Even in my relatively short time in this business, I've seen professors, from both sides of the spectrum, had their grades overturned, been disciplined and in some cases fired because they were failing or giving bad grades to students only because they disagreed with them.

Believe it or not, there are some of us up in the ivory tower who realise that we're not going to change the world, but we're responsible for training the people who are. Indoctrination is counterproductive- the last thing any of us want is to see a decision-maker at any level who cannot comprehend the possibility that they might be wrong and someone else might have a better idea.
 
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Fair point. I've had experiences with teachers like that. There was a time where I would have called for him to be exposed. However, in my experience, those people always win. They generally have a huge swarm of suck-up students to defend them, and will turn the people he bullied into the bad guys (it's happened to me more often than I'd like). I guess I'm just a bit jaded when it comes to academia.
 
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crabtastic said:
Not sure about ignoring him being a good idea, Chief. he is in a position where he can influence a lot of impressionable young minds. I think, on the contrary, he has to be shown up and it be demonstrated that he's a nutcase. It's fine to have a point of view, but others have the inalienable right, if not a responsibility to challenge that view.

The reason I tend to go off at right wingers here is because at my day job, I make a point of choking down the bile and telling the other side of the story as impartially as I can. Despite some assertions by others to the contrary, I've never proclaimed myself to be the font of all knowledge and I have no problem at all with being proven wrong. I was always taught that if you have a good teacher you won't be able to tell their political views. The head of my dept at my orientation as an undergrad said "we don't teach you what to think, we teach you how to think". At the end of the day, there's a fundamental difference between a thinker, who by nature has only themselves and their ideas to worry about, and an educator, who has a responsibility to others- to inform them of as many options and ideas as the student can handle, and then let the student draw their own conclusions.

I like to think that holds true in most cases. Even in my relatively short time in this business, I've seen professors, from both sides of the spectrum, had their grades overturned, been disciplined and in some cases fired because they were failing or giving bad grades to students only because they disagreed with them.

Believe it or not, there are some of us up in the ivory tower who realise that we're not going to change the world, but we're responsible for training the people who are. Indoctrination is counterproductive- the last thing any of us want is to see a decision-maker at any level who cannot comprehend the possibility that they might be wrong and someone else might have a better idea.
Crabtastic!

I can't beleive it! I agree 100% with what you have said here! :numberone:

I still think you are more of a new liberal leftist and would push their agenda over middle of the road or right of center views, but thats your bag!
 
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Trip_Wire said:
I still think you are more of a new liberal leftist and would push their agenda over middle of the road or right of center views, but thats your bag!
He's not that far left, he just seems like it at times :thumright:
 
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Chief_Joseph said:
Trip_Wire said:
I still think you are more of a new liberal leftist and would push their agenda over middle of the road or right of center views, but thats your bag!
He's not that far left, he just seems like it at times :thumright:
Chief:

Is that like being a little pregnant? :headbang: :thumright:
 

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