KEL-TEC 7.62 Bullpup ambidextrous rifle

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  1. Now everyone is going to want one of these!


    Empty cases eject from the front of the fore end. (Well they seem to just fall out)

    See the video here:
    or same video on youtube here:

    and the exploded view/ technical description including a longer barrelled version (LSW?) (PDF) here:

    The reciprocating cocking handle is reversible from left to right but it is clear of the body when firing off the wrong shoulder anyway as shown here:

    A select fire version would be no trouble to make. A true intermediate cartridge such as the 6.8SPC would be the obvious choice. (How about .280 British ? !)

    Note the proper safety catch and the astonishing similarity in appearance to the prototype 4.85mm IW.

    A good summary with pictures of variants here:
  2. Forward ejection!!! Nothing like sneaking down the streets being all quiet and tactical until you point the barrel down and all the brass falls out.

    Nice idea and I saw it a while back but I think it's still a novelty factor.
  3. Well you won't have any brass in it until you've made a loud noise firing it!

    Tipping empty cases out is a minor drill to practice compared with the benefits of being able to shoot round the left side of cover.
  4. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    Dribble, didnt they make the ak shotgun recently, I have soem clips of it somewhere!
    They will need to make a better magazine though!
  5. No the AK shotgun is the SAIGA from IZHMASH. You can have one on Section1.
    Different versions apparently:

  6. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    No long before they came out a septic firm made some remarkably similar, I'll look them up!
  7. Blimey O'Reilly - there must be some seriously badassed pigeons in your neck of the woods!

    (Okay I want one)
  8. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    Its the wild boar that worry me!
  9. The potential for stoppages and hot brass down the sleeves looks to high for me
  10. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    No worse than any other weapon we buy or have in the past, with the cases dropping out of the front it will be like the FN2000 and at least not like the Jimpy or LMG dropping hot brass down the sleeves of your tropical shirts!
  11. What a shit idea. The amount of extra springs a working parts would be a nightmare. Not to mention that if one broke, you'd have an arrse of a time manually ejecting the rounds. At least now you can yank the cocking handle and fish them out reasoably easily.
  12. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    It wouldnt sell if it wasnt any good, eventually when a compromise calibre is selected kel tech will no doubt supply some to a govt agency who will trial it! I can see the advantage of such a weapon, ticks allrthe boxes apart from weight of ammo. Perhaps if we had the backbone we could have had the Rifle No.9.
    Edited to add that the yanks wont buy any old rubbish and there is quite a following for 7.62mm Nato over there amongst the civvy shooters. The cases eject out over the barrel, it took me a couple of looks but basically there are no extra springs involved, or at ;least no massive numbers of additional parts. I suppose emptying the tube is by tipping it muzzle down, I wonder about showing clear and stoppages but surely that would all be worked out!
  13. Nice. That wouldn't cause too many problems. Can anyone see where they are on the pics?

    Had a look at the feed mechanism too. You'd have a nightmare with double-feeds and you'd have to strip the butt to get them out. Not handy in a tight spot.
  14. They run above and on either side of the bolt carrier, not entirely unlike an AR18.

    It needs a sliding access port to clear stoppages. The lift and feed mechanism rather puts me in mind of the Browning M2 or even an Ithaca shotgun in principle.
  15. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    A better explanation
    It still doesnt show how you look inside though, I'd find that disconcerting at first.
    I own an 8 shot Police Ithaca 37 which is bottom feed and bottom eject, it predates the browning BPS which is a copy. That took a little getting used to but you cant tip the rifle 180 degrees to see insidde for a stoppage?