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Just thought Id share this with you.

To set the scene.

I post on an American site, where the subject is motorbikes. The thread was whether newly licenced riders should be allowed out on the road on 600cc Supersport bikes. The thread then somehow developed into a discussion on gun control. I stated that I thought that American Gun Law was madness, and as a former soldier, and Weapons Instructor, I was used to handling weapons, and wasn't speaking out of ignorance.

A poster called Sgt Mack came on and hit me with this gem....(me in green)

"The_guru - 13 June 2008 03:52 PM
Why on earth not?

Bikes kill, but are designed as a mode of transport.

Guns are designed to kill.

The American Gun Law is insanity.

And before you gob off about me not knowing what I am talking about, I was a Weapons Instructor in the Army and therefore am weapon "literate""

You were a Weapons Instructor in the Army, huh? What MOS is that? Was that back in the 80's when the Army was full of criminals and degenerates? Who was your first sergeant? What unit were you in? (Where you even in the Army?.......)

'Guns are designed to kill.'.... That is the dumbest statement I've ever heard in my entire life.

'The American Gun Law is insanity.' Good, get the #### out of my country. (Have you read the Bill of Rights? Would you like to do away with the rest of those, too?)

I AM in the Army. I have chosen to stay in the Army, during a time of war, so that I can protect the freedoms afforded us by this wonderful country we live in. If you actively seek to abolish those freedoms, you are an enemy of the United States of America and should be thrown out of the country, or tried for treason.

I would happily die to protect the freedoms our country and its' Constitution and Bill of Rights afford us. Your ignorance saddens me, but that is one of the freedoms you have as an American. However, if you want to live in a socialist state, by all means, move to China... I'm sure they'd be more than happy to do what I think would be best for you - send the secret police out to kill your dumbass... just for being a dumbass. (But, since you're an American, luckily you have a Bill of Rights protecting you from #### like that [go ahead and give up the 2nd Amendment, call it stupid or insanity - but, when you lose the 4th Amendment or 1st Amendment, don't come crying to me.] And, it's people like me who secure those rights for you... Don't forget that, you ignorant prat.)


'Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.'

~ Thomas Jefferson

This is why some politicans want gun control so badly!


1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

2. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

3. Colt: The original point and click interface.

4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.

5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?

6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.

7. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.

8. If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.

10. The United States Constitution (c)1791. All Rights Reserved.

11. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?

12. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the

13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.

14. Guns only have two enemies--rust and politicians.

15. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.

16. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.

17. 911: Government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.

18. Assault is a behavior, not a device.

19. Criminals love gun control; it makes their jobs safer.

20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.

21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them!

22. You have only the rights you are willing to fight for.

23. Enforce the gun control laws we ALREADY have; don't make more.

24. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.



PS. Are you a Californian? You must be.... It's states like yours, full of mass-media-educated ingrates, that pass UN-CONSTITUTIONAL gun laws.... If me and 5 of my best friends (JUST 5!!!) lived in Compton or East LA, there wouldn't be any gang violence....just a bunch of dead gang bangers....or, they'd be too scared to commit any crimes and would eventually become good American citizens.

While you're at it.... Feel free to take away the 2nd Amendment...I guarantee the 1st and 4th will soon follow. ('Give an inch, and they'll take a mile.') Don't say I didn't warn you, but I'm willing to bet a large sum of money that's the way this country is headed (do you even know what being a 'liberal' means?).

You do well in a socialist regime, they have laws just for people like you....(If you don't know what I'm talking about, you might want to do some historical research...)

Your ignorance stinks.... Get out of this country - as willing as I am to die for the Constitution; I am not willing to die for ungrateful, ignorant ##### like you.

Why don't we pass a law prohibiting the public from purchasing a street bike unless you have 5 years of documented motorcycling experience... Or, that you can't get a driver's license without paying for a special tax stamp - except we wont issue any tax stamps.... Or, if your sportbike has a chicken strip, yet no middle tread, you should have your bike taken away from you... SOUNDS CONSTITUTIONALLY UNSOUND TO ME. Do you want an America like that? Seems to me you do. Get out you un-American, ignorant ####.

and then

If you were/are 'weapon literate," you wouldn't be saying the things you're saying.... In fact, I highly doubt you were ever in the Army. Unfortunately, it's not a crime to tell people you were in the Army, but never were... However, if you told me your were a Medal of Honor recipient...or, that you had been awarded a bronze star for you exemplary military record.... Or, that you were in officer in charge of range operations... I would go directly to the FBI and have you arrested on felony charges.

You are the scum of the earth. It's ignorant people like you that will be the downfall of this country. It happened to the Roman empire (at about the same time)..... And, it wasn't because of the government - it was because the people were too ignorant/or incapable of questioning their government.

By all means, speak your mind... It's your right....I'm not trying to take that away from you... But, when you pollute the minds of others with your ignorant banter, you piss me off....and, that's a right that I am entitled to. And, so is this.... (So, block this. Report it to the xxxxx.com administrators... You'll only re-enforce my statements about your ignorance/idiocy.)

- A REAL [Army] Veteran/Range Officer (and American citizen)

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Well, to be fair, it is horses for courses. On here, it is a free for all, but on that particular forum, it is pretty strictly moderated. I'd be scared to have a cockend like that in my section .
Would you seriously want to be in the sights of this fella?

This idiot is a walking freindly fire goon !

Who cares who dies, as long as I got to shoot my gun!
fluffer said:
'Guns are designed to kill.'.... That is the dumbest statement I've ever heard in my entire life.

Well, technically guns are designed to send a bit of aerodynamically-shaped metal on a ballistic trajectory, but he's kinda missing the point.


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What the hell ARE guns designed for then? Just about every weapon except the gun and the saword was designed with a civilian purpose in mind. Got to run, I'll come back and post something more in depth later
Trans-sane said:
What the hell ARE guns designed for then? Just about every weapon except the gun and the saword was designed with a civilian purpose in mind. Got to run, I'll come back and post something more in depth later
The Longbow
The Crossbow
The Cannon
The Catapult
The Slingshot
The trebuchet
The javelin
The lance

Other than hunting (to Kill), what could the above (to name but a few) be possibly designed for

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