Just bought a boat...

#1
Hi,

I've just bought this lovely lady

http://i5.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/0b/0c/a586_1.JPG

and it's on the River Avon. It's 27" long and has a beam of 9". I know nothing about boats at all so it's just for fun weekends with the family.

My question is, as it's 9" wide, will it be possible to navigate from Gloucester to Guildford? There's a marina there although ideally I'd like to take it to Littlehampton or Brighton but that's not possible as far as I know.

Thanks folks.

PS I'm going to call her the Kun-Tiki
 
#2
Nice, a toy boat 27 inches long by 9 inches wide. Sorry, couldn't resist that, I know you meant feet really.

Just going to go and check my Nicholson's guides to the waterways, back in a mo.........
 
#4
Books found - were you thinking of heading north towards Birmingham then down the Oxford Canal, or down the Severn and along the length of the Kennet and Avon Canal, a bit of the Thames, and then the Wey?

I think you are going to have a problem with locks on some routes. Oxford is only 7 foot wide on locks, but K&A is wider at 13 foot 10 inches. The K&A requires a windlass of a different size to lock paddles on other canals.
 
#5
And the BSS to deal with now as well. Great if you get a good inspector, nightmare if you get the Nazi I had.

Oh, and don't speed on the Avon or Severn (if you ever head that way), the BW Stazi have their own "dickers" that will shop you at the drop of a hat.

Although the maximum £100 fine that they can give you is sometimes well worth the none stop giggling you get out of watching what the bow wave of a power boat moving at 30 Knots does :) (Awaiting outrage from Anglers, enviromentalists etc)
 
#7
Too true, great fun ramming a tupperware teapot when you are steering a nice big steel narrowboat. I hit one more or less head on when throbbing along the Oxford Canal at 3mph. The guy was going the other way, when he realised at the last moment that he was going to pass me on the wrong side, only he was wrong - he was going to pass on the right side. At the very last moment he tried to cut across my bow and didn't make it. Lovely thump noise, didn't feel a thing, but I did see the tupperware turn sideways and roll violently. Beautiful sight, people falling over, sounds of crockery etc crashing to the deck in the cabin accompanied from screams from the cook. Shortly after, as the stern of the narrowboat passed the happy scene I merely looked to the side side and said "Morning", and carried on.

More good advice for you. The onboard chemical kharzi will fill rapidly if you like beer. On a narrowboat the correct protocol is to go off the stern, remembering to keep the wind in your back as you do so.
 

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#8
Aunty Stella said:
And the BSS to deal with now as well. Great if you get a good inspector, nightmare if you get the Nazi I had.

Oh, and don't speed on the Avon or Severn (if you ever head that way), the BW Stazi have their own "dickers" that will shop you at the drop of a hat.

Although the maximum £100 fine that they can give you is sometimes well worth the none stop giggling you get out of watching what the bow wave of a power boat moving at 30 Knots does :) (Awaiting outrage from Anglers, enviromentalists etc)
As an ardent maggot drowner I have to say.... go as fast as you want, the wash stirs up the bottom in most places and within about half an hour I'll get a swim full of fish.
 
#9
Congratulations, looks like a nice craft.

Just in case you were not aware there is a requirement to register your boat for a vast number of waterways.

Use this site Environment Agency as a starting point they have a list of numbers and links. Oddly enough you don’t need a licence to drive, but the authorities do carry out speed checks and they are tightening up on drinking and boating.

Enjoy (being skint)
 
#10
BiscuitsAB said:
As an ardent maggot drowner I have to say.... go as fast as you want, the wash stirs up the bottom in most places and within about half an hour I'll get a swim full of fish.
Let me know the next time you are sitting on the side of The Severn mate. I'm sure a quick "blib" of the Mercuries can be arranged :)

As 4-8-Alpha rightly said, enjoy being skint Tricky ;)
 
#11
4-8-Alfa said:
Congratulations, looks like a nice craft.

Just in case you were not aware there is a requirement to register your boat for a vast number of waterways.

Use this site Environment Agency as a starting point they have a list of numbers and links. Oddly enough you don’t need a licence to drive, but the authorities do carry out speed checks and they are tightening up on drinking and boating.

Enjoy (being skint)
Or, for the part of the world you wish to travel British Waterways may be better. You can buy a gold license if you wish to travel through BW and EA controlled waterways but the EA license part only covers you for East Anglia and The Thames. As BW own and manage most of the waterways it's normally the only license needed and not a bad price for what you get, add to that your Boat Safety Cert, DIESEL, Gas, maintenance and mooring fees (currently a good mooring is like rocking horse sh!t) and you have just joined one of the most expensive hobbies/ pastimes known to man; they say boats are money pits and it's very very true................................. did I mention insurance?
 
#12
I once heard (from an owner) the definition of a boat.

"A Hole in the water into which you pour lots of money."
 
#13
4-8-Alfa said:
Oddly enough you don’t need a licence to drive
Sort of right.

You still need to get a BSS certificate and a Navigation Licence. The physical "driver" doesn't need to personally have a licence but the boat owner has to have.

Except, funnily enough, if you take it into Coastal Waters (or didn't last time I went to Wales about 3 years ago). Blackrock Sands has got to be the deadliest stretch of coast in the UK. Gazillions of Jetski's and power boats with no safety certificates all charging around at a squillion miles an hour and (mostly) avoiding deadly collissions
 
#14
Cheers for qualifying that bit about the licence AS (I knew what I meant :D )

Here's some more numbers/links for you Tricky

• Tidal River Thames/Port of London Authority: 01474 562200
• Great Ouse/River Nene/River Stour/River Welland/River Glen/River Ancholme: Internal - 750 4701/External - 0845 6031043
• River Cam/Cam Conservators: 01223 863785
• Norfolk Broads/The Broads Authority: 01603 610734
• Other main rivers, canal systems/British Waterways - 01923 201120


Cam Conservators

Broads Authority

British waterways

The Port of London Authority

And there’s these

Boat safety scheme

International Certificate of Competence

Boater's Handbook

Britain's official guide to canals, rivers and lakes
 
#15
i bought a twelve foot boat back in may, dont know anything about sailing but still managed to get it across the english channel with two of my mates. little did we know that the channel is one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world and after nearly being hit by numerous ships we made it to calais into the arms of the not so happy french plod! check out the bbc website and type three men detained by french police into the search. worth a laugh! :D
 
#16
I am, as ever, in awe of the information a quick query provides. Thanks lads.

I've got a few books from Amazon coming tomorrow inc. the maps.

I've had 4 days in a narrow-boat on the Shropshire Union so this is all new to me.

The owner is divorced, loathes his ex-wife and she loves the boat. Ergo it's gone for a song just so he can tell her how little her half is worth. He's bunged in 3 years mooring at the pub he owns on the river which is worth a few grand I think.

It's not in great condition but I'm looking forward to pis5ed up family weekends painting / shouting / drowning the kids etc.
 
#17
Here's the blurb:

27-ft classic, ex broads motor cruiser. Built in the early 1970s, GRP hull, GRP sheathed wooden superstructure.

Hot water system powered by engine.

Sliding wheelhouse roof, Superb Mercedes Benz diesel inboard engine, with just a few hours use since overhaul, and Borg Warner velvet drive gearbox. New alternator, twin batteries, new cooker, electric flush thetford toilet (not cassette) new chrome steering wheel and new hydraulic steering system, with around 200 yards use since fitted!

New windscreen, new skeg fitted, just before post- winter relaunch at Easter. New bilge pumps, alarm, good canopies, plus canopies for all windows if required (would require new press-studs fitting to superstructure to use as we do not use them). New mooring lines and fender ropes, recently anti-fouled. Boat safety certificate until October 2008. Fitted for mains and 12 volt electric’s, as well as gas. Extensive refurbishment of interior carried out by previous owner. A small crack was discovered in hull below galley just after Easter. A complete area repair was carried, out by a professional marine company, and the area is now stronger than the rest of the boat!

Presently moored on River Avon in Gloucestershire, the private pub mooring may be available at a greatly reduced cost until June 2011, if required. (Moorings in this area usually average around £750 plus VAT per season.).

Ok, so what work is required? Firstly, the gearbox oil cooler developed a leak over time, it has been removed, and would take a reasonable competent person, with no marine knowledge, around 1-½ hours to refit, refill gearbox and start her up. The decks were re-coated with GRP and Gelcoat, before I purchased her, and to be honest, although strong, is not the best looking job in the world, (the surface is a bit uneven) could do with anti-slip deck matting fitting to improve looks. The steering console has had a small section removed to facilitate access to the new hydraulic steering pump filler, also a new switch panel fitted that works, but needs refitting properly. The windscreen wiper motor is u/s and needs a new unit. (Very easy access, sits on dashboard’ in wheel house.). The washroom area has had the old toilet removed, and will need some battening and wallboard fitting (very small area, easy job). The sink in the washroom is a bit ‘tired’ new one supplied still in box, again, a very easy job. The sliding roof is a bit tired also, and could do with a repaint (paint supplied if you want it blue as it is now). The boat was not built with a pulpit rail, a stainless steel one is supplied, and would need screwing to the foredeck. The wheelhouse area had limited space due to engine box cover (height could be reduced but not area). Cost of oil cooler around £75, wiper motor around £30.

The engine cannot be started until oil cooler fitted, but I am willing to guarantee that it works ok, and be there on first start up. I will also let you have engine and gearbox workshop manuals, and two brand new, unused books on Boat maintenance and repair, also boat electric’s, that cost me £80 for the pair.

To sum up, once gearbox oil cooler and windscreen wiper are replaced, the boat is ready to use. The rest of the jobs can be done while you are enjoying the use. If you wished to get it totally finished, then take a week off work, do all the fiddly jobs including the painting, and she is done. I am willing to assist the right buyer to replace the oil cooler, to ensure she works ok. You can keep her on my mooring until work complete if required. She is a classic boat, well over 30 years old, so please do not expect a modern marvel. ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE BEEN THE VICTIM OF A TIMEWASTER! PRICE NOW GREATLY REDUCED AS OTHER PROJECTS NEEDING MY ATTENTION. PLEASE NOTE THE BORG WARNER VELVET DRIVE GEARBOX AND MERCEDES DIESEL ENGINE ARE WORTH MORE THAN THE ORIGINAL ASKING PRICE OF THE WHOLE BOAT!

Please read carefully before telephoning to view, IT IS NOT A LUXURY LINER! Although once finished, she will be worth far more than the asking price.

*****************

I spent a while on the blower with the guy and he seem's genuine enough. I've agreed that I'll pay on Saturday once the work's been done on the gearbox / wiper.

Top chuckles all round I hope.

Anyone want to buy a K1200LT?
 
#18
Have a ball! (as the cannibal chief said at the banquet)

I had a boat on the Thames in the Reading area and lived on it most weekends. 23' Seamaster with hot&cold, bog and double-sized bunk. Loads of great pubs along the river which made it easy to invite a person of the female persuasion to have a drink on the boat. "You've never tried cruising along the river? Let's go! " With a few drinks along the way, of course. Ar ar ar - picture Sid James and his evil laugh.

And a good time was had by all. :twisted: :bounce:
 
#19
You could get it down to the coast Tricky, you just have to hoick it out of the water and chuck it on a low loader.
Its probably not worth it though, its nice, buts its no passagemaker.
 
#20
azahpm said:
i bought a twelve foot boat back in may, dont know anything about sailing but still managed to get it across the english channel with two of my mates. little did we know that the channel is one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world and after nearly being hit by numerous ships we made it to calais into the arms of the not so happy french plod! check out the bbc website and type three men detained by french police into the search. worth a laugh! :D
You are famous!

Channel boat trip trio picked up
Three men who set off in a small boat across the English Channel to France have been detained by French police.
Concerns were raised for the trio after Dover Coastguard received a 999 call from the mother of one of them saying they had set off in a 12ft boat.

Spokesman Murray Milligan said none of them had any experience in sailing or navigation making it very dangerous.

Their exploits sparked a search and rescue operation, which ended when their boat was found ashore in France.

It involved a rescue helicopter from RAF Wattisham, the Maritime and Coastguard Agency surveillance aircraft, lifeboats from Ramsgate and Walmer and coastguard rescue teams.

The search was stood down at 1800 GMT after the men were located between Calais and Gris Nez.

It is understood the trio, who are all in their 20s, set sail from their home town of Sandwich, in Kent.

Mr Milligan said the Channel was an extremely busy shipping lane to navigate in such a small craft.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/7282535.stm
 

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