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Judge not Tony Blair, for he is like St Paul’

#1
Your having a laugh........ain't ya??????

The Roman Catholic priest who was instrumental in guiding Tony Blair on his path to Rome compared the former Prime Minister last night to St Paul.

Canon Timothy Russ, parish priest at Great Missenden, the nearest Catholic church to the prime ministerial country residence at Chequers, called on Catholics who resented Mr Blair because of his voting record on abortion and stem cell research to remember the example of the Christian Church’s greatest Apostle, St Paul, a key figure in spreading the message of Christianity.

St Paul was ruthless in his persecution of early Christians before his dramatic conversion on the Road to Damascus.


“Quite a lot of people will be quite antiTony Blair at first,” Canon Russ said. “They will be unhappy that he has become a Catholic so easily. But they have to realise that St Paul had been a frightful antiChristian before he became a convert and did great things for the Church. I would advise people who are critical to wait and see what sort of man this will be, and how he might help our cause.”

On Iraq, Canon Russ – who was in discussion with Mr Blair for several years about his becoming a Catholic and is still in touch with the Blair family – said that there was no case for him to answer in terms of Catholic doctrine, because the former Prime Minister had done what he believed to be his duty.

Catholic leaders were yesterday playing down the significance of Mr Blair’s conversion. Insiders at the office of the Archbishop of Westminster, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Con-nor, emphasised that the former Prime Minister is “just one more individual”. Catholic leaders were also working behind the scenes last night to dispel misunderstandings about the nature of conversion.

In Britain’s increasingly secular society, there is widespread misunderstanding about the doctrine of Christian reconciliation, or repentance, confession and forgiveness. “What Tony Blair did any time before he became a Catholic, is basically not relevant,” one insider said. “The whole point about the profession of faith is that he is professing to believe it from now.”

The Times reported exclusively this year that the number of Catholics attending Mass was on course to overtake churchgoing Anglicans in Britain for the first time since the Reformation. Figures to be published by Christian Research next year show that, only three years after an influx of immigrants from largely Catholic states joining the EU, there are now more practising Catholics than Anglicans.

Lord St John of Fawsley, the Catholic peer and constitutional expert, said that there was no constitutional significance to Tony Blair’s conversion. The Act of Settlement of 1701, which forbids the monarch or his or her heirs from marrying a Catholic if they want to retain their right to the throne, does not affect the Prime Minister’s office.

Political sensitivities made it difficult, however, for Mr Blair to contemplate converting while in office.

Lord St John said that one factor that would have inhibited Mr Blair from converting while at Downing Street was the potential destabilising effect on Northern Ireland: “He has done so much more than any other Prime Minister to bring about peace, he did not want to jeopardise that.”

Mr Blair has been criticised for not taking a sufficiently “Catholic” line in votes in Parliament on abortion and stem cell research. But Lord St John said that, apart from Mr Blair not having been Catholic while Prime Minister, the issues were not clear in any case. “I shall vote against stem cell research because I do not like the idea of cloning embryos,” he said.

He added: “On abortion, it is still possible to be a Catholic and to be in favour of abortion. St Thomas Aqui-nas [the 13th-century Dominican scholar who “proved” the existence of God] believed that abortion was legitimate until 40 days after conception.” He said the Catholic view today was that abortion was wrong, but that until relatively recently even Catholic MPs were not uniformly against abortion.

Please, he has to be kidding.....surely?????? :?
 
#2
Never mind, when he has himself appointed as EU Presiden he can turn us into a socialist catholic continent.
I had thought he would be content when he was EU President but I coinfess I never thought he was going to aim for Sainthood (or even Pope)
 
#4
Can we burn him as a heretic?

Pretty please. :D
 
#6
Surely, two of the ten commandments that are fundamental to the Christian faith are, you shall not lie and you shall not kill.
So, with his disgusting track record, how can any branch of Christianity accept Bliar into its ranks
 

seaweed

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#9
The cynicism of delaying this until Blair was out of office rather than truly following his conscience should not be ignored.

Years ago I figured he wanted to be President of Europe. He is the first PM ever to have a future political career path. However in order to be President you have to have a country to be President of. The criteria for a Country include a single currency and central bank, a single set of laws or some sort of harmonisation at the top, and a single foreign policy and armed forces to effect that policy should need arise - which must all be totally controlled from the centre with no private armies or navies on the periphery. In the case of Europe there also has to be a breakdown of individual national identities which is achieved by cutting up recalcitrant countries like England into meaningless 'Regions'. We can now observe how sedulously Blair has worked towards all these goals in order to make the bed he plans to sleep in. In defence he has planned for us to pay for the deterrent and the aircraft carriers which will be part of his dowry, along with one of the few armed forces in Europe which is actually willing to fight. He is also able to point out how skilfully he has neutralised the bolshie English into sleepwalking into the European dream, and how his 'reforms' have chipped away at such English fancy ideas such as trial by jury, and unpaid Justices of the Peace. He has also deliberately subverted our sense of national identity by sitting back and allowing our culture to be undermined by all varieties of immigrants who have no background in the English culture of fair play.

Now - Shazam! he opens his cloak as the superman who has brought England to heel, and is ready to rule Europe under the terms he so carefully negotiated and which Brown has signed off so sneakily.

You will no longer be sent into action for Queen and Country - just meat in the European mincer should need arise, doing the job that the French, Spanish, Italians etc are too cowardly to undertake - and observing that the Germans who fought so willingly to plunge the entire world into a thousand-year Nazi night have no stomach for fighting for democracy after 1600 hours..

I could go on and on ..
 
#11
exflic said:
Surely, two of the ten commandments that are fundamental to the Christian faith are, you shall not lie and you shall not kill.
So, with his disgusting track record, how can any branch of Christianity accept Bliar into its ranks
Well, it is the same "branch" of Christianity that protects peadophiles among it's members... :roll:
 
#12
seaweed said:
The cynicism of delaying this until Blair was out of office rather than truly following his conscience should not be ignored.

Years ago I figured he wanted to be President of Europe. He is the first PM ever to have a future political career path. However in order to be President you have to have a country to be President of. The criteria for a Country include a single currency and central bank, a single set of laws or some sort of harmonisation at the top, and a single foreign policy and armed forces to effect that policy should need arise - which must all be totally controlled from the centre with no private armies or navies on the periphery. In the case of Europe there also has to be a breakdown of individual national identities which is achieved by cutting up recalcitrant countries like England into meaningless 'Regions'. We can now observe how sedulously Blair has worked towards all these goals in order to make the bed he plans to sleep in. In defence he has planned for us to pay for the deterrent and the aircraft carriers which will be part of his dowry, along with one of the few armed forces in Europe which is actually willing to fight. He is also able to point out how skilfully he has neutralised the bolshie English into sleepwalking into the European dream, and how his 'reforms' have chipped away at such English fancy ideas such as trial by jury, and unpaid Justices of the Peace. He has also deliberately subverted our sense of national identity by sitting back and allowing our culture to be undermined by all varieties of immigrants who have no background in the English culture of fair play.

Now - Shazam! he opens his cloak as the superman who has brought England to heel, and is ready to rule Europe under the terms he so carefully negotiated and which Brown has signed off so sneakily.

You will no longer be sent into action for Queen and Country - just meat in the European mincer should need arise, doing the job that the French, Spanish, Italians etc are too cowardly to undertake - and observing that the Germans who fought so willingly to plunge the entire world into a thousand-year Nazi night have no stomach for fighting for democracy after 1600 hours..

I could go on and on ..
This all presupposses that Bliar had all of this worked out in advance? I don't buy it. He's not that intelligent. He's just a pawn in the machinations of "The People's Front for Judea." Splitters!!
 
#15
C*cksucker Blair now that he's a Catholic can also become president of Sinn Fein, after all he's done for them...w*nker
 

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