JPA

#1
Was just woundering as JPA is now on line, has any units actually got the PCs in place for the individual to be able to use the system?
 
#4
Individuals will not be able to Self Serve until later on in the year as DII is still an issue, in the mean time Unit HR (Clerks) will continue to work on JPA by proxy on the soldiers behalf. Tri Service units will be going Self Service in May as their IT infrastructure is already in place with the other 2 services on line already.
 
#5
LJS,

Depends where you are. My (Regular Army) unit has enough DII/C infra to allow us to issue JPA passwords to all individuals for them to start 'self-serving'. This will be taking place in May.
 
#6
Hobgoblin said:
LJS,

Depends where you are. My (Regular Army) unit has enough DII/C infra to allow us to issue JPA passwords to all individuals for them to start 'self-serving'. This will be taking place in May.
Yep, clearly if you have the Infra this would not be an issue.
 
#8
What is the difference between DII A and F. I know we have LCSS(R) at my place but I do not know if it is DII?

Can anyone advise?
 
#9
DII stuff has a sticker on it saying DII ASSSET ;d

DII F is the self service terminals I think, DII A is what I have to play with the pay and stuff on (I think!)
 
#10
Mutley_Macc_Ladd said:
What is the difference between DII A and F. I know we have LCSS(R) at my place but I do not know if it is DII?

Can anyone advise?
Don't sweat about it, you'll be able to access JPA from any of the 243 networks the MOD currently have (As long as you have an account for one of them). DII(F) is just the newest version that will eventually replace all the legacy systems. As long as the network connects to the RLI which LCSS(R) does as does DII(C) TAFMIS, CASH, NavyNet, ESair, Crimes, DAWN, FOXNET, AshLAN.................................
Oh and there are only two flavours of DII (C) which stands for Convergence or C**p depending on if you work for DCSA or not. (F) stands for Future or F**ked and a third version due for increment 3 is DII(CF) or Completely F**ked but this will depend on which DCSA senior officer decides he wants a cushy consultancy job with EDS:)
 
#11
Baldrick66 said:
Mutley_Macc_Ladd said:
What is the difference between DII A and F. I know we have LCSS(R) at my place but I do not know if it is DII?

Can anyone advise?
Don't sweat about it, you'll be able to access JPA from any of the 243 networks the MOD currently have (As long as you have an account for one of them). DII(F) is just the newest version that will eventually replace all the legacy systems. As long as the network connects to the RLI which LCSS(R) does as does DII(C) TAFMIS, CASH, NavyNet, ESair, Crimes, DAWN, FOXNET, AshLAN.................................
Oh and there are only two flavours of DII (C) which stands for Convergence or C**p depending on if you work for DCSA or not. (F) stands for Future or F**ked and a third version due for increment 3 is DII(CF) or Completely F**ked but this will depend on which DCSA senior officer decides he wants a cushy consultancy job with EDS:)
You missed of DII(FD)

or we could call it RLI, those acronyms cost money
 
#12
You are of course correct Polar

TLA BS
 
#14
Assuming that my account has been activated and that I have been issued my password and logon and I can find a PC that has been alledgedly allocated as a JPA terminal - someone putting a stand-alone in the cookhouse and writing 'JPA' on the monitor casing in black marker pen does not classify as JPA terminal - no really, about 30 guys have tried to get it to do the JPA thing, only to be rewarded with Solitaire.

When in fact, do I, (and more importantly, my guys), get to actually submit claims/change details?

Is it when we overthrow the regime and liberate the bourgeois proletariat from the restraints of the oppressive state machine??

Right on Brothers!
 
#15
From the 2nd week of May UCTs will start to hand out passwords to individuals and should help them to log in to JPA.
 
#16
polar said:
You missed of DII(FD)

or we could call it RLI, those acronyms cost money
DII(FD) won't allow users to get onto JPA, because it will operate on SLI rather than RLI - that's one of the reasons we're buying JI/J4 IOS. If the money can be found, it is hoped that there will be a RLI DII(FD) after the SLI version is in use.

Best wishes

Don
 
#17
Thanks for the info............I'm completely confused now!

I'll just wait and see what happens?
 
#18
Mutley_Macc_Ladd said:
Thanks for the info............I'm completely confused now!

I'll just wait and see what happens?
Sorry about that - I was answering Polar, who will have understood my geek-speak. :oops:

The answer to your question is that there are some locations that have equipment that would technically allow army personnel to start what is called 'self-service' JPA - doing their own claims and so on. The sites where this is the case include joint units and most formation HQs, where there are already quite a lot of compatible terminals.

With that said, we're not not putting users on as soon as the kit is in place: Firstly, users will not start going on-line until all the administrative preparations are complete, and that started 3 or 4 weeks ago - it's why the AGC is pretty busy at the moment. Then, we're limited in the maximum number of users who can join on any one day, so the system isn't swamped. And finally, there are a hell of a lot of units that don't yet have the kit, so they couldn't join anyway until it arrives, supposedly in the course of the next few weeks. The AGC has put out a programme for units going self-service, which starts shortly, and will continue until everyone (less those on ops and a handful of others) is doing their own admin. That is planned to be by Jul, but some of us think it will take a bit longer than that. The whole business of issuing logins/passwords for DII and JPA is going to be massive, so don't be surprised if the plan changes as we go along.

Hope that answers your question, and sorry if my first post on the thread was a bit techie. Someone like Paymaster is best to answer any specifics on JPA, or some of us, me included, can probably answer any questions on DII.

Best wishes

Don
 
#19
I think the major problem here is the difference between DII(F) and JPA.

DII is a network computer system that in it's various guises allow an individual to access various server based applications (programmes) this could be either via a restricted (RLI) or secret (SLI)
JPA is an application that is hosted on the RLI and any RLI based system can access it, pretty much the same way we access Arrse, on line banking etc on the internet.

Hope that helps a bit Mutley
 
#20
Mighty_Mech said:
Assuming that my account has been activated and that I have been issued my password and logon and I can find a PC that has been alledgedly allocated as a JPA terminal - someone putting a stand-alone in the cookhouse and writing 'JPA' on the monitor casing in black marker pen does not classify as JPA terminal - no really, about 30 guys have tried to get it to do the JPA thing, only to be rewarded with Solitaire.

When in fact, do I, (and more importantly, my guys), get to actually submit claims/change details?

Is it when we overthrow the regime and liberate the bourgeois proletariat from the restraints of the oppressive state machine??

Right on Brothers!
You shouldn't need to worry, Bramcote has had DII platform for well over 2 years now and there are more PC terminals than people there! Rumour has it that morale has risen 100% since the CO changed over there. But then 100% of nothing is nothing.....
 
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