JPA and allowances

#1
Went through JPA training last night :yawnstretch: and got a little confused as to what we could and couldn't claim.

We can't travel to courses in private cars? (although the training package shows you how to make a claim)

We can claim for newspapers and telephone calls when on a UK course?

We can claim for missed meals?

Any other claims we should be aware of? I don't normally claim anything unless I was put out of pocket in a biggish way and I guess many others do the same. However JPA looks like it makes claiming easier.
Wonder how well it works with TA, from what I'd seen, a TA soldier could bugger up the system in a number of ways.
 
#2
As far as Iam aware you still use a private car as long as you have business insurance, and sign the relevant form to say you have added this to your policy.

I added business insurance to my policy, it cost me nothing with those nice people who have a phone with wheels. "That's Better!"
 
#3
Also ,is anyone aware of having to put receipts in now for missed meals that cost less than £5.00. Prior to 01.02.07 you didn't.
 
#4
brucewillis said:
Also ,is anyone aware of having to put receipts in now for missed meals that cost less than £5.00. Prior to 01.02.07 you didn't.
The steer we were given is keep all your receipts.

Part of the JPA rollout is that we become personally liable for audit, for up to one year after submitting a claim. So find a box on a shelf somewhere to keep them all in!
 
#6
I have a letter on my desk that covers allowances, I'll check it and get back to you on friday (if its relevant and no-one else has answered by then)
 
#7
Mongoose said:
I have a letter on my desk that covers allowances, I'll check it and get back to you on friday (if its relevant and no-one else has answered by then)
Mongoose,

Please could you add it to the wiki, I can see this being a popular question?

msr
 
#9
Its irrelevant what you can and cannot claim given the mechanics of it all!

Have you factored in the number of DII terminals available on a TA weekend in some of the camps you use? Even at a CVHQ how many staff are going to leave their door open so any Tom can go in and feck up their desk? Why you can't use ArmyNet is beyond me!

I would average it takes 20 minutes per person to submit an expenses claim. 50 people turn up on a MATTS weekend do the maths.

JPA is great for the Regs but not thought out for TA. Another way of making if difficult - I had the cost of newspapers/mobile phone calls knocked back because I didn't have receipts - even though I signed to say they weren't available.
 
#11
Zingari said:
I would average it takes 20 minutes per person to submit an expenses claim. 50 people turn up on a MATTS weekend do the maths.
So people won't claim, will get fed up and retention decreases.

You probably didn't hear it here first...

msr
P.S. The current system works, it ain't the most efficient, but it ain't broke
 
#12
Zingari said:
I would average it takes 20 minutes per person to submit an expenses claim. 50 people turn up on a MATTS weekend do the maths.
Is that implying we have to 'clock on' on drill nights and weekends, as for claims I've made one a year and so was expecting to use the DII room as an office.

As an big organisation why are we so poor at passing info on?
 
#13
polar said:
Is that implying we have to 'clock on' on drill nights and weekends, as for claims I've made one a year and so was expecting to use the DII room as an office.
My info is that recording of attendance isn't changing for now (with the exception of adding a 3/4 day pay rate). Still sign on the AR for bulk input by the clerks or AOs.

However, some units might work differently...

For the poster who mentioned OTCs - it will only be an issue if they're all claiming MMA to get to/from the barracks. For attendance recording, see my comments above (and I would assume this also includes home-to-duty allowances).
 
#14
polar said:
Zingari said:
I would average it takes 20 minutes per person to submit an expenses claim. 50 people turn up on a MATTS weekend do the maths.
Is that implying we have to 'clock on' on drill nights and weekends, as for claims I've made one a year and so was expecting to use the DII room as an office.
As an big organisation why are we so poor at passing info on?
Ha ha (rolls around the floor, with black nasty covering ribs to stop sides splitting).
 
#15
So, I've got a 1250 to submit. Do I attach the receipts or hold on to them?
 
#17
For the poster who mentioned OTCs - it will only be an issue if they're all claiming MMA to get to/from the barracks. For attendance recording, see my comments above (and I would assume this also includes home-to-duty allowances).

Not if they all decide to change their bank details at the same time :E
 
#19
We can't travel to courses in private cars? (although the training package shows you how to make a claim)
Right, hopefully this is of some use.

Temporary Duty and Courses.
Subject to a maximum limit of the 50 mile rate, Service personnel who are temporarily assigned from their permanent duty station (eg for a course) will be entitled to HDT (public) or (private) as follows;

a. For a period of 10 days or more. Subject to agrement by the CO of the temp. duty establishment, HDT (public) or (Private) at the rate for the distance between their RWA at their permanent duty station and the temp. duty station

b. For a period of less than 10 days. HDT (public) or (private) at the rate for the distance between their RWA at their permanent duty station and either the temp. or permanent duty station, whichever is the greater.


RWA = Residence at Work Address


:frustrated: :frustrated: I hope that means something to you!
As for the other questions I'll try to answer them next week (I'm doing the HR staff course then and supposedly after that I'll know everything I need to.. :thumright: )


Ref; the wiki. You mean stick it on the /jpa page? There's not much there at the moment (wonder why!) is that the right place? Or is there a more 'serious' page out there
 
#20
SSSSShhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, can you keep a secret ? Well can you ?
You can ? Then great, I'll pass on something real good as long as you pinkie promise not to let those money grasping STABS in on it.
Remember the box on the attendance sheet marked TEA, the one that was binned not so long ago ?
Whilst quick to publicise the demise of TEA the CoC seems quite a lot slower in publicising its replacement. Were you told that you could claim MOA in its place but required a minimum of 9 claims (receipts) per month to qualify?
If so you were misinformed, TA personel need only to provide 2 per month with receipts to be able to claim.
Fill yer boots...
 

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