Journalism - Plummeting standards

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Have you noticed the poor standards of British Journalism lately? I'm not talking about phone tapping. I'd just like them to write something quite close to the truth, unbiased and without concealed adverts. The Journo of today seems to have no command of the English language.

Here's and example from todays online press:

BBC News - Trial of soldiers murdered at Massereene barracks to begin

From that headline, exactly who is on trial?

If you notice glaring mistakes made by journoscum, why not post them here for a bit of arrse ridicule.
 
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I have noticed that their idea of in depth research is to sit on their backsides, watching twitter. Jimmy Carr made a slightly poorly-timed joke about a car crash on Twitter yesterday. Within 10-15 minutes it was on a newspaper site, with the appropriate outrage fuel and comments. A real non-story, as he apologised to all his "tweeps" almost immediately but you would think he had stood on the M5 and shouted it repeatedly through a megaphone at the emergency services! Saved the journo from getting out of his jim-jams though as he could just text in his copy and expenses claim from home.
 
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I have noticed that their idea of in depth research is to sit on their backsides, watching twitter. Jimmy Carr made a slightly poorly-timed joke about a car crash on Twitter yesterday. Within 10-15 minutes it was on a newspaper site, with the appropriate outrage fuel and comments. A real non-story, as he apologised to all his "tweeps" almost immediately but you would think he had stood on the M5 and shouted it repeatedly through a megaphone at the emergency services! Saved the journo from getting out of his jim-jams though as he could just text in his copy and expenses claim from home.
Well how often have threads from here appeared in the Red Tops, even ideas that have appeared on here are suddenly the ideas of a columnist and some skanky bit of tabloid world.
 
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The Guardian is the best-written paper, more a reflection of how poor the others have got than any measure if its intrinsic qualities. The Telegraph in particular has undergone a dreadful decline, and is now only partially literate whilst at the same time being riddled with Americanisms. It gives the impression of being principally the work of US or US-educated interns and graduate trainees, who rewrite - poorly - Press Releases and wire service copy.
 
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Well how often have threads from here appeared in the Red Tops, even ideas that have appeared on here are suddenly the ideas of a columnist and some skanky bit of tabloid world.
When in doubt, check a journo out: journalisted.com

Sadly doesn't work for the BBC feeds which often don't ident the reporter - however you can begin to spot the web trawlers, and those that acknowledge arrse. Just looked meself up - I get a mention!
 
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The Guardian is the best-written paper, more a reflection of how poor the others have got than any measure if its intrinsic qualities. The Telegraph in particular has undergone a dreadful decline, and is now only partially literate whilst at the same time being riddled with Americanisms. It gives the impression of being principally the work of US or US-educated interns and graduate trainees, who rewrite - poorly - Press Releases and wire service copy.
The Guardian is written by hypocritical sandal-wearing lefties for hypocritical sandal-wearing lefties; hence it runs at a massive loss while frantically stashing its few remaining assets in offshore tax havens.

Equally, the Telegraph appears to have sacked all its sub-editors and seems to publish raw copy without any editing at all. It's trying to be the next Daily Mail and failing miserably, thanks to vacuous trollops like Bryony Gordon filing columns of AMMM-style dribble. The "Independent" is anything but and virtually no-one reads the Times since they put up their paywall.


One of the biggest problems in British journalism at the moment is that opinion-led celebrity dribble is, like it or not, the only type of news making a profit. Look at the NOTW: that thrived off publishing "celeb" gossip and other outrage-mongering crap. It was the largest of all the Sunday newspapers before its demise.

The other big problem is that modern journalists (me included) are jacks of one trade and masters of none. I work on a desk of seven. Except for the editor, none of us has been here longer than 18 months. Three of us arrived in the last 6 weeks and we know sod all about the topic of our (very) niche publication. I don't doubt we **** up constantly, simply because we have no working knowledge of what we're writing about. If news organisations stopped recruiting wet-behind-the-ear keyboard monkeys on minimum wage and instead took on people with a few years working in whatever industry they're writing about you'd raise the quality threshold overnight.
 
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You missed out self-opinionated,I'm sure that has to go in there somewhere! :biggrin:
If only they were all self opinionated, but they continue to push the diatribe of Socialism. The qualities I quoted are those that are required by the BBC HR department when compiling reports for their masters, the usual bureaucratic box ticking exercise has to take place before they examine the relevant skills.
 

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Tf news organisations stopped recruiting wet-behind-the-ear keyboard monkeys on minimum wage and instead took on people with a few years working in whatever industry they're writing about you'd raise the quality threshold overnight.
Can you, in as few words as possible, explain where the "wet-behind-the-ears keyboard monkeys" are to get that experience? I agree that each trade/profession will have a handful of people able to string together a few words/sentences, but I guess they tend to remain in the job they understand rather than take on a new risky role as a writer or journalist. The news agencies will therefore require people, possibly even those trained as journalists, to write their articles.
 
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If only they were all self opinionated, but they continue to push the diatribe of Socialism. The qualities I quoted are those that are required by the BBC HR department when compiling reports for their masters, the usual bureaucratic box ticking exercise has to take place before they examine the relevant skills.
Ah,understood! :meditate:
 
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Can you, in as few words as possible, explain where the "wet-behind-the-ears keyboard monkeys" are to get that experience? I agree that each trade/profession will have a handful of people able to string together a few words/sentences, but I guess they tend to remain in the job they understand rather than take on a new risky role as a writer or journalist. The news agencies will therefore require people, possibly even those trained as journalists, to write their articles.
That's fair but equally there's also a real need to encourage writers to specialise. Look at the numbers of complaints we get on here about the standard of defence journalism - how everything with tracks and a gun is a 'tank', etc.

But if journalist 'X' is defence correspondant this week/month and then 'promoted' to celeb or city editor the next it's no wonder we are where we are.

For better or worse, I doubt you'd see the equivalent of Max Hastings these days.
 
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One of the biggest problems in British journalism at the moment is that opinion-led celebrity dribble is, like it or not, the only type of news making a profit...
The Economist seems to be doing OK. They aren't perfect, but they seem to employ quite knowledgable people to write well, without ever feeling the need to list 10 reasons why something will cause cancer, or to run features on footballers.

...The other big problem is that modern journalists (me included) are jacks of one trade and masters of none...
I'd be happy if newspapers took on more people that had a numerate degree; "being good at English" doesn't seem to translate into understanding (far less explaining) things like Fukushima Daiichi, MMR vaccinations, SARS, or H1N1.
 

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An old favorite from the BBC website
 

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