Jonestown Massacre & Cults

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But did you get any though.

From any of the three.
Fingered one and managed a blowjob off the sister but the mother hated them hanging around with little scumbags like me so they moved house.
 
I wouldn't mind joining a cult. Free food, free digs, free beer. Be all right that.

There's only one here though and it's a bit shit. You have to take out a mortgage to buy a picture of Holy Mary and then carry the leader about on a big gold throne. It's not even live-in :(
Here he is - you get your first glimpse of him about 20 secs in.
 
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This is a good shorter version of the OP link, with a killer song Fear the Reaper by blue oyster cult

 

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JWs? Easy - just tell them you used to be one - they're very specifically forbidden to talk with you and will fuck off sharpish ...
 
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I picked up "Helter Skelter" from Audible and it's a cracking account of Charles Manson and his "family." I highly recommend it, for the first part alone. The trial stuff is not so interesting as the author (and prosecutor of Manson) skips a load of stuff where things got very personal between him and Manson.

Anyway, I have the Jonestown documentary recorded, looks interesting.


I am thinking about buying this book, it seems that of all the books on the case it is regarded as the definitive version .But it seems its not entirely definitive .

Does the book go into detail how they all met up and then travelled over California together ? I have read reviews that suggest it skips this phrase ! ..which is a pretty important piece of the entire story i'd say .
 
JWs? Easy - just tell them you used to be one - they're very specifically forbidden to talk with you and will **** off sharpish ...
Interesting notion but, the big danger there is expecting them to follow their dogma to the letter, religious zealots are oddly not reliable at doing that if the need arises.

Just tell them to fcuk off sharpish if that's what you want them to do.
Honesty is the best policy.
 

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Couple of culty podcasts on MonsterTALK:

El D20ablo — The Satanic Panic & Role-Playing Games

The late 1970s and 1980s saw the rise of a new kind of game.Dungeons & Dragons and its many competitors captivated many high-school and college students, but many parents and authority figures feared that these new games were a gateway to Satanic ritual and perhaps even murder. Author Joseph Laycock returns to discuss his new book:Dangerous Games.
ZOMBIES, CULTS, AND DEMONS
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In Pursuit of Satan documents examples of rumor-panics in which the police have fomented fear by attributing crimes to satanists, indulging in sheer speculation and promulgating misinformation through the sensationalist news media. Hicks examines the construction of the satanic ideology among law enforcement officials, focusing on the exploitation of satanism as a new scapegoat for public fears and addressing the phenomenon of credulity among police forces and allied professionals in social work, psychiatry, and psychology.
Nobody mention the Kent Police.

Ah the good old days, now we have to make do with chanting the mundane old Mumbai Attack mantra and less vivid imaginings, well a bit less.
 
I am thinking about buying this book, it seems that of all the books on the case it is regarded as the definitive version .But it seems its not entirely definitive .

Does the book go into detail how they all met up and then travelled over California together ? I have read reviews that suggest it skips this phrase ! ..which is a pretty important piece of the entire story i'd say .
It's been a long, long time since I read the book but it I still remember it being an excellent read. I do seem to recall that it did detail how he got his little group together and the time spent together prior to the murders. The court proceedings were very interesting too.
 
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One of the aspects of the Jonestown cult which i found really striking was the 'Christian socialist' ideology that they were supposedly following. Whilst it's no suprise to learn that the members worked collectively, it is an interesting fact at how multi-racial the cult was. One of the central tenets of the cult was racial equality, which would be seen as progressive even by todays standards in the US and other countries. Apart from that, the cult set the standard on authoritarian charlatanism.
Although it was apparently around 70% black practically all Jones inner circle were white and although he was shagging any man or woman breathing he apparently only ever had sex with one black woman and that was for "her own good" ,nothing he did was for any good reason everything he did was calculated, Blacks were drawn to him because he convinced them that he was black [they all called him dad or father] and because poor black folk especially inner city blacks had a history of believing pentercostalist's of the type he first preached,and they bought their welfare checks with them .

Has anyone else read the book Raven? I swear if Stephen King had wrote that book people would have said it was too far fetched to be believable ,I mean for instance would you believe a sane middle aged man who has been in a car crash could say that he was decapitated by it but then Revernd Jones came along and put his head back on his shoulders ? its f*cking literally unbelievable
 
Had a weird run in with the Scientologists years ago.

Was in the car on the way to a rugby match near their East Grinstead headquarters when the car we were in took a wrong turn. Unwittingly we had turned into the drive of Saint Hill Manor (their HQ).

The car had literally encroached on their drive for a few seconds before 2 aggressive security guards were out of the gate house. Demanding to know why we were there, asking us to get out of the car etc. Thankfully one of the lads was a Constable and once he badged them they let us go.
 
Read Helter Skelter many years ago and agree, very good book. I found the trial stuff interesting, particularly where Manson jumps the table to get at the prosecutor, but didn't know that parts were missing. Do you know if there's anything more complete available by another author?
There was a TV movie made in the 70's about the family
 
The then 55th Aerospace Recovery and Rescue Squadron (which became the 55th SOS first unit to fly the MH-60G Pave Hawk to serve in Just Cause and Desert Storm, now flies HH-60G out of D-M as the 55th RQS) was stationed at Eglin thus scrambled to Guyana in 78 for the delicate / heart rendering response.

Their HH-53/H Super Jolly Greens were amongst other then Military Airlift Command (which were in charge of Air Rescue and Spec ops ) assets which included HC-130H Combat Shadows and C-141.

(Photos courtesy of the USAF CSAR Fb page)

Bearing in mind some of these were already ‘Nam vets and some were straighten out of school at Kirtland be it aircrew or tech lot out of Goodfellow...it was an eye and nose opener. Reading the worst part. Was handling the deceased kids and infants..

All remains went up to Dover AFB Mortuary Affairs for PMs by armed forces and Feds paths.

Decade and Half later on....timed synced event both in Canada and Switzerland believing they be whisked off by aliens...

God knows what or how bunch of individuals persuaded hundreds to take their own and kids / infants lives.... beggars belief ( no pun intended).
And no one to cart to trial then off to jail or the electric chair / gas chamber to answer for this...

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Also one of my favourite metal bands from oop north - The Almighty released this song ..around the time of Swiss / Canada mass ....aptly named.

Not sure if by today’s standards it be in PC but it connects both 78 and 94 cases..
 
Hmm, interesting, perhaps this explains why Corbyn and the UK Labour Party are showing signs of being a 'Cult' perhaps. Corbyn and his Momentumite Acoylytes "Speak to peoples afar like the spirits of Lenin, Stalin and so forth!", and like Maduro and other Lefty Winos and duds.......
 
There is definitely a touch of the Jonestowns about Corbyn's true believers.
 
Also one of my favourite metal bands from oop north - The Almighty released this song ..around the time of Swiss / Canada mass ....aptly named.

Not sure if by today’s standards it be in PC but it connects both 78 and 94 cases..
That the Order of the Solar Temple?

They ended up being a chapter in a book on New Religious Movements which is in a cardboard box somewhere in my pile of stuff (so I cannot access it, which is a shame as it was very good).

The LSE has a study centre on such groups.

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I think with respect to Corbyn, the problem is that of "the failure of prophecy in New Religious Movements". This is why you have to be very careful about setting precise dates or events; because how do you deal or rationalise the failure of the event?

For example -

The Hale-Bopp commet avoided the failure of prophecy issue with regards Heaven's Gate, as they committed suicide.

David Koresh and his continual revision of prophecy lead to the loss of patience and tactical intervention in Waco.

We have yet to understand how DAESH will rationalise the failure of of the Caliphate (but it has an outer with the will of Allah and this being a test to purify the faithful).

Corbyn has a problem of the expectation caused by populism - but, we should be careful. Grandious aims and mediocre outcomes may lead to frustration with the consistutional proceedure and extra-proceedural action - possible even violence.
 

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I've been mentoring a student on a work placement she got me this for Christmas, shes clearly worked out how to get a good review.
 

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