Joining the TA with the eventual goal of being an RAF flyboy

#1
A LEVELS – 17 to 19
TA – 18 – 20, (volunteer for ops at 19 after A LEVELS)
UNI AND UAS – 20 to 23/24
APPLY TO RAF @ 23/24

This is my plan so far, the reason for the TA is that I have always been torn between being a soldier and a military pilot, this way I get to do both and if I absolutely loved army life then instead of a UAS I would go OTC unit and join as an infantry/engineering officer after Uni. If I didn’t like it that much then I’ve got soldiering out of my system and can carry on with the royal chair force route, or if I had a drastic change of heart and turned into a left liberal nutter waving my stop the war cereal packet placards and putting flowers in my hair I could even stay civvie!

Also I don’t fancy joining up as an officer fresh out of Uni with little/no life experience, and then ordering round a bunch of soldiers who have been doing the job for many years. I would much rather be able to say I’ve been at the “bottom of the pile” so to speak, I know what it’s like, I’m not some Rupert, you’re the priority here.

I’ve also considered going in as a direct entry, straight after my tour, but would much rather go to Uni first for a) a higher wage (during Officer training and the like) and b) less time in service before Flt Lt/Captain. It sounds shallow and money really isn’t the motivation to join the forces, but it is something to consider when there are two entry routes to a commission. Besides, what better time to indulge in a shitload of S.O.U.Ps (yes I’ve been reading arrsepedia too much lately) Plus I can dick around at Uni to a certain extent, and get involved in things (especially at UAS/OTC) such as adventure training leadership which will look spiffing to OASC or AOSB.

Realised this is going on for quite a while, so to anyone who has bothered to read this far, keep going, the end is near! I’m trying to answer all your comments/challenges before you make them, I think I’ve thought of a fair few already, but if anyone would like to give me some advice/raise any points then go ahead! Cheers.

One question also, would 2 years of service with 6 months on ops be an acceptable return of service to the TA considering my units investment in me? If it makes a difference I am aspiring to 4 PARA, C company (leeds, liverpool etc)
 
#2
My, my are we not lucky that you want to join the TA whilst & Uni and then join the RAF afterwards?
Have you not thought of an RAF scholarship whilst at Uni & get some flying training in at the same time?
Surely that way you would be up on your peers when you went to Cranwell?
 

Mr_Fingerz

LE
Book Reviewer
#3
Why bother with the TA? If you're set on a career flying for the Crabs, why not join the RAFR?

Alternatively, if you want to be a soldier and fly there's always Teeny Weeny Airways.
 
#5
Fingerz, I've wanted to be both a soldier and a pilot, I would go AAC but, as is probably quite predictable I want to fly something incredibly fast and loud.

Mr Snakey you underestimate my age, I've actually got my first 3 cubs badges already!
 

Mr_Fingerz

LE
Book Reviewer
#6
What will you do when the Crabs tell you that you can't be one of the Winged Master Race?
 
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cloudbuster

Guest
#8
Just an observation; have you had a good look at the current state of the training pipeline?
 
#9
I wouldn't do either.

Flying needs a good quality degree in a "hard" subject as they call it, I'd focus on your academic studies and not **** about with the reserves or the OTC mouth breathers.

If you are really that clever that you are fast jet material you could get a bursary as well.
 
#11
so who say's your make a pilot then?
air cadets & gliding experience?
or is this just a big dream you have??
Never mind all that, if he's not racking up a good maths or science degree then the closest he will come to a fast jet is a posed class photo with one in the background when he leaves Cranwell as a logistics officer.

I call wah.
 
#12
Never mind all that, if he's not racking up a good maths or science degree then the closest he will come to a fast jet is a posed class photo with one in the background when he leaves Cranwell as a logistics officer.

I call wah.
Are engineering degrees included in the maths and science remit, seen as engineering includes a lot of maths?
 
#13
Are engineering degrees included in the maths and science remit, seen as engineering includes a lot of maths?
There's a hell of a lot of "engineering" subjects, some of which no doubt are soft degrees in reality these days so I wouldn't have a clue which ones would make you sutiable as the driver.

You would have to actualy go and see the RAF recruiting bod in that mysterious shop in the high street, the one that has pictures of jets and tanks in the window.

He is easy to spot, he's the effeminate looking one in a girly blue uniform.
 
#14
Just an observation; have you had a good look at the current state of the training pipeline?
I heard that you can count its current trainees on the fingers of one hand. To the OP, good luck.
 
#15
TA – 18 – 20, (volunteer for ops at 19 after A LEVELS)
If you only want to be in the TA for 2 years, don't waste everyone's time and don't bother. Putting all that money into training you and putting you through courses when you have no intention of staying is not what they're looking for. 'Volunteering for ops' there is a bit more to it than that, the chances of being able to deploy having been in the TA for a year (especially as, by that time, Herrick will be drawing to a close anyway) are pretty slim, and that's if you're being optimistic.

Oh and by the time you've finished your training with the RAF and are a qualified pilot, your experience in the TA will have faded into insignificance. Your juniors will respect you because you are an RAF pilot, not because you did 2 years with the TA.
 
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Biscuits_AB

Guest
#16
My, my are we not lucky that you want to join the TA whilst & Uni and then join the RAF afterwards?
Have you not thought of an RAF scholarship whilst at Uni & get some flying training in at the same time?
Surely that way you would be up on your peers when you went to Cranwell?
Why do you insist on responding to these posts? It's the same fuckwit all the time.
 
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cloudbuster

Guest
#17
If you only want to be in the TA for 2 years, don't waste everyone's time and don't bother. Putting all that money into training you and putting you through courses when you have no intention of staying is not what they're looking for.
The Board at OASC may well question your level of commitment, too. As a pilot, of any hue, you're expected to be able to lead by example, rather than by the nose. You might want to take a look at the 'Wannabe' thread on PPRuNe, when they get it back online.
 
#19
Care to elaborate? I've read tons of threads on here before actually joining the forums and there aren't too many of "these posts" around that are close enough to the path I'm considering?
That should tell you something about the path you propose following...no one else thinks it's good either.
Anyway, by the time you finish, they will be recruiting Playstation champions to fly drones.
 
#20
The Board at OASC may well question your level of commitment, too.
I was going to mention that and forgot.

(@OP) - if you do a bit of this and a bit of that for the next 7-8 years, it doesn't show you stick at anything. Yes you've got a broad range of experience, but it's a broad range of a little experience and not a lot of anything. The RAF don't want to take somebody on as a potential pilot who after 12 months of very expensive training decides that once again he's bored and needs a new direction. That's not what they're looking for.

With 2 years of TA, 3 of UAS... none of them will have given you any 'real' experience. They might have been nice fun hobbies with a bit of insight into service life, but nobody's going to look at 2 or 3 years in any service and consider it as giving you any real 'advantage' over somebody who hasn't. If you did 5 years in the TA or RAuxAF during college and university, that would probably stand better than half of each.
 

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