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Joining the TA after being MDd from regulars

#1
OK, long and short of it, knees and ankles were fcuked after Grapple, got MD'd

Could still pass a BFT but not a CFT. Def not an ICFT as the AAC do.

Having recenty read that the TA recruitment age has been raised to 43 (I am 39), where can I join and considering my 9 yrs in the AAC, what should I join?

I didn't want to leave, a sneaky AP mine on Grapple deided that but I am led to believe that I could rejoin as TA even though I was MD'd from the AAC.

Gotta be honest, my WDP (which they gave me and I never asked for) makes up a big chunk of my mortgage payments . If I could swap that for TA pay I'd be happy.

SO, can I join the TA as an MD'd ex reg, if so what happens to the WDP, finally, whats the best to join (if I can) at my age?
 
#2
Aunty Stella said:
OK, long and short of it, knees and ankles were fcuked after Grapple, got MD'd

Could still pass a BFT but not a CFT. Def not an ICFT as the AAC do.

Having recenty read that the TA recruitment age has been raised to 43 (I am 39), where can I join and considering my 9 yrs in the AAC, what should I join?

I didn't want to leave, a sneaky AP mine on Grapple deided that but I am led to believe that I could rejoin as TA even though I was MD'd from the AAC.

Gotta be honest, my WDP (which they gave me and I never asked for) makes up a big chunk of my mortgage payments . If I could swap that for TA pay I'd be happy.

SO, can I join the TA as an MD'd ex reg, if so what happens to the WDP, finally, whats the best to join (if I can) at my age?
Aunty fair play for the intention mate but what would you be intending to do? Assuming that all people joining are capable of deploying.


Edit. Reread my post gave my head a wobble and decided you want some sort of instructor post, good luck to you.
 
#3
spaz said:
Aunty fair play for the intention mate but what would you be intending to do? Assuming that all people joining are capable of deploying.


Edit. Reread my post gave my head a wobble and decided you want some sort of instructor post, good luck to you.
To be honest, anything would do. I'm bored sh1tless being a civvy

All I want to know is if I can, and if I can, in what role. Considering that I may not be the best in an ICFT, what can I do next considering that I am a clever cnut ( ;) ) that has ex regular experience that wants to do something but can't due to being MD'd back in the day when failing a CFT would get you binned .

Without wishing to sound like a cnut, others on here will tell you that I am fairly succesful and moderatley wealthy in my my business. But I am bored.

I want back in.

Can I do it in the TA after being MD'd as a R|egular?
 
#4
You could double yourself to Brize Norton, they'll strap four Allisons and some wings to you and have you doing Sarejavo landings in and out of Bastion in a fortnight.

You look like a pasty skinned Hercules fuselage :D
 
#5
You can (met a few MDs from the regs) , but you lose any pension you have and if you left more than three years ago they may make you do CMS(R) which means you'll be doing a few CFT's.

What trade interests you?
 
#7
Aunty your doing the same as I, aslong as you pass the Medical with the quack they'll send for your docs from glasgow, and you may have to sit a medical board who'll give you a yay or nay.
Although I'm pretty sure on one of the application forms it states if you have been receiving a pension for injuries received you it makes you ineligble to rejoin.
 
#8
Well I was MD'd in 2003 yet passed a medical last week for my local mob. I explained the run up to the MD and the doc thinks I was shafted by the regs. I never wanted to be MD'd and it was against my wishes in the beginning to be kicked out. I have been paying the price ever since because the minute any employer finds out you were MD'd they start to think twice. I was lucky when I got in the old bill. I passed the medical and fitness pretty easily. I know I could do the fitness for the TA yet some pen pushing shiny arse in Glasgow could still say no!

I know what your going through mate. A lot of people will say why not join the ACF if you wanna do something. I did take that route and to be honest its not worth it. Most of the cadet forces are made up of uniform carriers. The few decent ones in there soon get weeded out. It very much is a case of if your face dont fit etc etc. Anyway another topic me thinks.

Get down your local unit mate and see what they say. I took advice from the guys on here (MSR etc) and told them the truth. I was expecting to get binned straight away but was passed medically fit to join. If I lose the pension so be it. I can replace that with TA pay. I just wanted to do my bit again and do something with my life whilst I am still young enough to do so.

Bear with it and let us all know how you get on!
 

RP578

LE
Book Reviewer
#11
Aunty,

There is hope and it goes like this:

According to the TA Enlistment Instructions (AC 63522), para 0301.(e) the following type of person is not eligible to enlist: "Persons in receipt of disability pensions from any source, except that in special cases applications may be submitted for consideration to the appropriate officer in charge of records..."

And that neatly leads us to the next chapter which covers Special Enlistments.

TA Enlistment Instructions (AC 63522), para 0401. (o): "Volunteers who are in receipt of a disability pension from any source" will need to be enlisted under the Special enlistment procedure."

An AFB 203 form will have to be sent to Glasgow for approval before you can be attested. In short, if your unit wants you enough, there exists a procedure to get you attested. Whether you'll make it through basic training or not is another matter and is something you might want to talk to unit about. As msr said, there are other ways to serve and the ACF may just fill the void.
 

RP578

LE
Book Reviewer
#13
mark1234 said:
If he had to lose his pension, then because of his injuries failed CMS(R) would he get the pension back?
Yeah that's what I was thinking. It's a lot to gamble, if he and his unit thinks that he has a chance ...
 
#15
skintboymike said:
What about trying to land a civvie job for the army?
Do try and read the entire thread.

Aunty Stella said:
Without wishing to sound like a cnut, others on here will tell you that I am fairly succesful and moderatley wealthy in my my business. But I am bored.
msr
 
#16
The other thing to consider is you are currently recieving a Pension, which (I assume) will pay out for you for the rest of your life. If you join the TA and have to give up your WDP then the TA pay you recieve in its place will only pay out to you for remainder of the time you are in the TA, and not the rest of your life.

Having said that I know of a guy who left the regs with a back injury after falling off a 30m rope, Now, I don't know if he recieved a pension or some form of disability payout, but he was in receipt of something. He joined the TA 11 years ago and is now a CSjt, having completed two tours, and currently on his his third, and still recieving his payout. But to be fair, he was still able to complete his ITD's/MATT's.
 
#17
msr said:
Aunty Stella said:
Could still pass a BFT but not a CFT. Def not an ICFT as the AAC do.
I very much doubt it, but as always the advice remains to go to your local unit and ask them.

Wiki: http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/TA_forum_faq#I_have_a_random_medical_question...

Have you thought about becoming an ACF instructor?

msr
Of a level 3 non deployable unit like an OTC or HQ where no CFT is required. If your happy to take a bit of training and some driving/G4 stuff could well be an option. Where about are you?
 
#18
This thread opens up some very interesting questions:

1) Given that aspertions are cast on the TA and an AGAI process introduced when we fail to meet the required fitness levels, why should people who know they can't make the standard be let in?

2) Given that we are going to see more and more downgraded regulars and TA soldiers in light of past and current ops, should room be found? If so, where?

3) How does this impact the enablers v mobilisers argument? Should there be room for those unable to deploy through injury (i.e. not their own fault)?

I don't have my own answers at the moment.

msr
 
#20
Aunty,

I would think the best thing to do at this moment in time is to wait out until the results of the TA review have been published, this is due any time now. The enablers v mobilisers issue is supposedly one of the issues that is being addressed - no point putting yourself through the grief only to find you have totally wasted your time and effort.

PW
 

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