Joining for EOD - RE or RLC?

#1
After talking to a careers advisor today I got the impression that most Ordinance Disposal is done by the Royal Logistics Corps. Until now I was set on joining 33 Regiment Royal Engineers without realising EOD was also an RLC job. After reading around I still don't see the key differences between the job of 11 EOD RLC and 33 EOD RE.

What is the difference in EOD done by the Royal Engineers and Royal Logistics?
 
#3
There are many threads on here about this, but they invariably end up in a RE v RLC slagging match. I'm not going to do that here.

RLC.

EOD in the RLC is performed by Ammunition Technicians (AT) and Ammuniton Technical Officers (ATO) - these are specific trades in the RLC.
The AT/ATO is taught about ammo and its effects as part of their course. The trade itself is not all about EOD, there are various other ammo tasks involved - some of it quite tedious.

EOD in the UK is done to support the police. The RLC are normally the first port of call, mainly because most taskings fall under their remit. The RLC are remitted to conduct all Improvised Explosive Device Disposal (IEDD) (i.e terorrist or criminal bombs) they are also responsible for clearing land service items (grenades, mortars, artillery shells etc). This may also include Chemical Munitions.

The AT/ATO also undertakes other specialist tasks which cannot be discussed on here, but which are very interesting.

RE
Are responsible for clearing enemy air dropped munitions and for clearing large areas that may be littered with munitions.

The RAF (British Air delivered weapons) and Navy (anything below the high water mark) are also involved.
 
#4
CharlieBubbles said:
Sappers are a far better class of Gentlemen, so said the King!

So it's 33 EOD then!
You could be correct, but my nice badge (see avatar) is far nicer than your boring bomb. :p
 
#5
dingerr said:
CharlieBubbles said:
Sappers are a far better class of Gentlemen, so said the King!

So it's 33 EOD then!
You could be correct, but my nice badge (see avatar) is far nicer than your boring bomb. :p
If the procedure goes peat tong, you still get the flash and bang, all you hope, is you can count it in at least 10 second intervals, not in milli seconds!
Or no matter what the badge, it becomes a gas . . . . :wink:
 
#6
Join the RE.

I love my trade, but i am embarressed by the RLC. There are often rumours that the AT trade will move across to the RE and i wish it would happen.

If you select the AT trade you will do ammo and that is it. It is very difficult to transfer out of trade and many other opportunities are limited. At least in the RE you will get a bash at many things and have a multitude of different skill sets.

Whichever one you choose, just remember it will be many years before you are a BDO or No1 Operator making the decisions on the ground.
 
#7
Crab_wise said:
After talking to a careers advisor today I got the impression that most Ordinance Disposal is done by the Royal Logistics Corps. Until now I was set on joining 33 Regiment Royal Engineers without realising EOD was also an RLC job. After reading around I still don't see the key differences between the job of 11 EOD RLC and 33 EOD RE.

What is the difference in EOD done by the Royal Engineers and Royal Logistics?
If you need to ask which one, I suggest you would probably be happier as a Sapper.
 
#9
Bear in mind you can also get another trade such as Brickie, chippy, sparkie et al and also go EOD in the Sappers.........
 
#10
dingerr said:
Join the RE.

I love my trade, but i am embarressed by the RLC. There are often rumours that the AT trade will move across to the RE and i wish it would happen.

If you select the AT trade you will do ammo and that is it. It is very difficult to transfer out of trade and many other opportunities are limited. At least in the RE you will get a bash at many things and have a multitude of different skill sets.

Whichever one you choose, just remember it will be many years before you are a BDO or No1 Operator making the decisions on the ground.
Cant believe after all the slagging you finally admit to wanting to be a sapper.
 
#12
keeffy said:
dingerr said:
Join the RE.

I love my trade, but i am embarressed by the RLC. There are often rumours that the AT trade will move across to the RE and i wish it would happen.

If you select the AT trade you will do ammo and that is it. It is very difficult to transfer out of trade and many other opportunities are limited. At least in the RE you will get a bash at many things and have a multitude of different skill sets.

Whichever one you choose, just remember it will be many years before you are a BDO or No1 Operator making the decisions on the ground.
Cant believe after all the slagging you finally admit to wanting to be a sapper.
Lesser of two evils 8O
 
#13
Crab_wise said:
After talking to a careers advisor today I got the impression that most Ordinance Disposal is done by the Royal Logistics Corps. Until now I was set on joining 33 Regiment Royal Engineers without realising EOD was also an RLC job. After reading around I still don't see the key differences between the job of 11 EOD RLC and 33 EOD RE.

What is the difference in EOD done by the Royal Engineers and Royal Logistics?
join the R.L.C. as a driver.
then try and go for a number 2 operator in 11 E.O.D. if you like it transfer
to be an AT.
 
#14
WRAPJOBAGAIN said:
Crab_wise said:
After talking to a careers advisor today I got the impression that most Ordinance Disposal is done by the Royal Logistics Corps. Until now I was set on joining 33 Regiment Royal Engineers without realising EOD was also an RLC job. After reading around I still don't see the key differences between the job of 11 EOD RLC and 33 EOD RE.

What is the difference in EOD done by the Royal Engineers and Royal Logistics?
join the R.L.C. as a driver.
then try and go for a number 2 operator in 11 E.O.D. if you like it transfer
to be an AT.
Thats terrible advice.
 
#15
dingerr said:
WRAPJOBAGAIN said:
Crab_wise said:
After talking to a careers advisor today I got the impression that most Ordinance Disposal is done by the Royal Logistics Corps. Until now I was set on joining 33 Regiment Royal Engineers without realising EOD was also an RLC job. After reading around I still don't see the key differences between the job of 11 EOD RLC and 33 EOD RE.

What is the difference in EOD done by the Royal Engineers and Royal Logistics?
join the R.L.C. as a driver.
then try and go for a number 2 operator in 11 E.O.D. if you like it transfer
to be an AT.
Thats terrible advice.
at least he she will get a look into life with the A.Ts
 
#16
WRAPJOBAGAIN said:
dingerr said:
WRAPJOBAGAIN said:
Crab_wise said:
After talking to a careers advisor today I got the impression that most Ordinance Disposal is done by the Royal Logistics Corps. Until now I was set on joining 33 Regiment Royal Engineers without realising EOD was also an RLC job. After reading around I still don't see the key differences between the job of 11 EOD RLC and 33 EOD RE.

What is the difference in EOD done by the Royal Engineers and Royal Logistics?
join the R.L.C. as a driver.
then try and go for a number 2 operator in 11 E.O.D. if you like it transfer
to be an AT.
Thats terrible advice.
at least he she will get a look into life with the A.Ts
Yeh after a minimum of 3 years trogging around as a driver to get his lance jack and then there is still no guarantee that he will be posted to 11 Regt.
 
#17
Crab_wise said:
After talking to a careers advisor today I got the impression that most Ordinance Disposal is done by the Royal Logistics Corps. Until now I was set on joining 33 Regiment Royal Engineers without realising EOD was also an RLC job. After reading around I still don't see the key differences between the job of 11 EOD RLC and 33 EOD RE.

What is the difference in EOD done by the Royal Engineers and Royal Logistics?
Lots of good advice given. What is your academic background?. Explosive Ordnance Disposal is only part of the job in any event. There are lots of other tings to do in either trade group.

Best of luck
 
#18
Academically: good GCSE's, Ok/Poor A-levels and an Electronics HEDiploma in the pipeline.

I've spent this weekend reading around the forums and there's loads of great advice and information on both RE and RLC.

RLC AT's seem in short supply so my thinking is: that by joining the RE (for the diversity that comes with Combat Engineering) it would be easier to transfer to RLC at a later date.

But that's a long way ahead for someone who hasn't even had 1st interview yet :)
 
#19
Whichever way you go, you'll be on the ground a lot. Iraq and Afghan both have Joint Force EOD Groups (RN, RAF, RE & RLC) providing Bomb Disposal teams.

Don't worry about the differences between the 4 groups that do EOD - in Afghan there are RLC doing stuff that used to be the preserve of RE, and vice versa.

Look at what else the two corps offer and decide on that. With RE you will go in and out of EOD every few years. It's the same really with RLC; they flick between Ammo Tech logistics jobs and Ammo Tech EOD jobs in their careers.

Don't listen to anyone who says 'X unit is best cause they are'. EOD training for all units is excellent and wide ranging. And they are all damn busy right now, and undermanned.

Don't join expecting to transfer. You'll get stuck into whatever you end up doing and won't want to leave it.
 
#20
keeffy said:
Cant believe after all the slagging you finally admit to wanting to be a sapper.
I don't think dingerr slags off sappers mate ... he indulges in the usual wedge/stacker banter that is the accepted norm between the two branches. In fact between all EOD arms of service. If it were not for some very bitter and twisted senior officers the whole EOD community would get on far better. There are n0bbers in all branches but there are more bl00dy good blokes and some fine heroes. :1:

Being an old tw@t, I also think that you will find that dingerr would not be advising joining RE if they were still RAOC ... something terrible happened the day that famous corps was integrated into the big fat wobbly bunch! :)

As for having a nicer badge; could be true, but the RE badge (yellow & green) is a qualification badge and not a trade badge. The red and yellow badge is a battle honour bestowed on RE Bomb Disposal units during WW2 and is worn by all who serve with RE EOD including attached personnel who are not qualified EOD ... which is rather nice :D

My advice to you would be to consider what you want out of the army; if you want to be only EOD then go RLC, but remember that there are stints inspecting ammunition rather than blue lighting it down the motorway to save the day. If you choose the RE you may only ever do EOD for one posting but you may find yourself getting posted back; some have wangled a career out of it! The bonus with RE, EOD not being a trade, is that you might get an additional trade useful to later life. You will also be very involved in engineering, not just military but civil (usually construction).

I left in 2000 with welder as a trade, various H&S construction quals, experience of managing construction tasks and the EOD qual. I choose to do the latter in civvy street but also have other things to fall back on should the need arise.

Think carefully about what you want as a chosen career in the army; as the previous poster points out, it is difficult to transfer once qualified. But whatever you choose, good luck, work hard and enjoy.

K13

Edited to add: RAF EOD are all spotters, RN EOD are underwater poofs and the RLC EOD smell of blankets :bom:
 

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