Joining at 16

#1
I have wanted to join the army for as long as I remember and I have recently read and watched a few videos about joining at 16, a lot of them say that the fitness tests are easier than when you join at 18. Thanks any info would be useful
 
#2
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#3
What else is there to do? Get paid to get a trade and get qualifications, if you don't like it you're still young enough to try something else. Do it! And good luck (get a trade!)
 

sup rec

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#4
What else is there to do? Get paid to get a trade and get qualifications, if you don't like it you're still young enough to try something else. Do it! And good luck (get a trade!)
The fitness tests are slightly easier for SOME jobs (a bit more time on the run and one bag lass on the power bag lift) but that is all. You should be aiming to meet the standards for adult entry though as they aren't that difficult.
 

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#6
The fitness tests are slightly easier for SOME jobs (a bit more time on the run and one bag lass on the power bag lift) but that is all. You should be aiming to meet the standards for adult entry though as they aren't that difficult.
What's this power bag all about, then? The test?
 
#10
Don't bother.

CMT isn't worth having when you rotate back to the worl. It's not even an ambulance driver.
Particularly if he means the other (and much more intelligent) form of CMT as shown here:


Construction Materials Technician


The Role:

Construction Materials Technicians are in charge of the investigation and testing of materials used in construction tasks to provide critical design information. In addition, the Construction Materials Technician will be involved in construction design, conducting site investigations using specialist drilling rigs and carrying out laboratory testing on soils, aggregate, concrete and bituminous materials.

The Skills:

A Construction Materials Technician carries out a range of tasks, principally working with concrete technology, bituminous materials, pollution surveys and geophysical investigations.

They provide critical design information during construction tasks and test materials, such as soil, rock, cement, concrete, bitumen and tar.


Although, to be honest that trade is unlikely to help you become an ambulance driver either
 
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Davetheclown

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#11
Good luck just dont do what I did and go with the first trade thrown at me. You will regret it, if you do go CMT study hard, and when you are in get yourself qualified up for paramedic. I had a friend who did that, then he did a degree, he runs a successful dive medicine centre when he left.

My advice is get on every course you can that will help you when you leave.

Also you dont have to join straight away, have you thought about the Forces Preparation Course, or the Uniformed Services Course at your local college. It will give you a chance to get fit, a better grounding and prepare you prior to joining.

Leaving school and straight into the Army will be tough for you and I feel the above course will prepare you better. You may even find something out about yourself.

Good luck buddy and dont let us old farts put you off.
 
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Davetheclown

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#13
It's a weighted bag lift. You start with a 15kg bag and go up in 5kg weight intervals upto 40kg. Each job has a minimum weight which must be achieved.
Squat training is good for this, at the 40 kg mark it is a little bit cheeky. These tests are actually pretty good.
 

sup rec

LE
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#14
Also you dont have to join straight away, have you thought about the Forces Preparation Course, or the Uniformed Services Course at your local college. It will give you a chance to get fit, a better grounding and prepare you prior to joining.
if you go down the Uniform Public Services route then don't believe the hype that it will get you three A levels and enough UCAS points to go officer - it won't. It will give you an insight into all the public services but it will not help you get in. You will get UCAS points but not enough to go officer and you can't 'equate' them to anything. They will not count towards a commission. You also require the requisite ALIS points from 7 GCSE's.
 
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Davetheclown

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if you go down the Uniform Public Services route then don't believe the hype that it will get you three A levels and enough UCAS points to go officer - it won't. It will give you an insight into all the public services but it will not help you get in. You will get UCAS points but not enough to go officer and you can't 'equate' them to anything. They will not count towards a commission. You also require the requisite ALIS points from 7 GCSE's.
A lots changed since I did it over 20 yrs ago, they did GCSE catch ups and on the two year course you did your A Levels for Officer. Shame they changed it, we did a lot of adventure training, expedition planning, car mechanics, judo, leadership training, computer training (CLAIT) I think, and going to Lympstone,(Outstanding) Halton (crap) and Bassingbourne (Brilliant). We did police training (touchy feely) Fire Brigade and St Johns Ambulance (scratches head). We all did Advanced Lifesaver at the local pool (handy for summer lifeguard work).

I had a brilliant time on my course and it kind of helped me when I got in as i was more open and little more confident. But I agree with you its not a guarantee of getting in.

Thanks for correcting me on the quals,

DTC
 
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A lots changed since I did it over 20 yrs ago, they did GCSE catch ups and on the two year course you did your A Levels for Officer. Shame they changed it, we did a lot of adventure training, expedition planning, car mechanics, judo, leadership training, computer training (CLAIT) I think, and going to Lympstone,(Outstanding) Halton (crap) and Bassingbourne (Brilliant). We did police training (touchy feely) Fire Brigade and St Johns Ambulance (scratches head). We all did Advanced Lifesaver at the local pool (handy for summer lifeguard work).

I had a brilliant time on my course and it kind of helped me when I got in as i was more open and little more confident. But I agree with you its not a guarantee of getting in.

Thanks for correcting me on the quals,

DTC

Wish I was on your course!

I'm finishing my last month of a Level 3 Uniformed Service course at my local college and to put it frankly it was really mis sold to us. Was told we would be rockclimbing, kayaking etc several times a year. The most adventure training we got to do was a few walks in local nature reserves last year, we have two overnight expeditions in the peak district which is mandatory for passing the edexcel course. Advantages are we have had several visits from the Royal Marines and Mercian infantry regiments who have run a few PT lessons with us and gave us a bit of an insight into service fitness and ran some command tasks to help build qualities needed for the forces. I personally dislike the course and can't wait to start basic in June but that's purely down to the lecturers and the amount we've been messed around, so far had 2 tutors leave and the management of the course has been terrible, cancelled lessons week in week out and no real structure over the 2 years. Hopefully this will improve for students enrolling at my local college. (Newcastle under lyme btw)

I would recommend it to someone looking at going to a different college however as like previously stated, it gives you a chance to mature, get a qualification behind you, get your fitness and general service knowledge up prior to joining. Just try and speak to an existing student on the course before you do and ask for an honest opinion!
 

Ravers

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#17
I joined at 16, best thing I ever did.

In the Army I believe they keep the sprogs separate from the big boys until they come of age, as such your first couple of years are basically an extension of school but with guns.

In the RN they just chuck everyone in the mix together. After trade training, I flew to the Falklands on my 17th birthday to join a Destroyer, 3 weeks later I was hanging out the back of my first Brazilian whore. 4 weeks after that I was busting drug smuggling crims in the Caribbean.


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Davetheclown

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#18
Wish I was on your course!

I'm finishing my last month of a Level 3 Uniformed Service course at my local college and to put it frankly it was really mis sold to us. Was told we would be rockclimbing, kayaking etc several times a year. The most adventure training we got to do was a few walks in local nature reserves last year, we have two overnight expeditions in the peak district which is mandatory for passing the edexcel course. Advantages are we have had several visits from the Royal Marines and Mercian infantry regiments who have run a few PT lessons with us and gave us a bit of an insight into service fitness and ran some command tasks to help build qualities needed for the forces. I personally dislike the course and can't wait to start basic in June but that's purely down to the lecturers and the amount we've been messed around, so far had 2 tutors leave and the management of the course has been terrible, cancelled lessons week in week out and no real structure over the 2 years. Hopefully this will improve for students enrolling at my local college. (Newcastle under lyme btw)

I would recommend it to someone looking at going to a different college however as like previously stated, it gives you a chance to mature, get a qualification behind you, get your fitness and general service knowledge up prior to joining. Just try and speak to an existing student on the course before you do and ask for an honest opinion!
Sorry to hear that your course has been a waste of time, hope your course has been pushing it the direction of the Senior Lecturers and a little letter to Ofsted might be worthwhile.
 
#19
I totally agree with what SUP_REC and Freelanc3r put, firstly as stated above the qualifications they say you will come away with at the end aren't going to get you into the Army any differently plus as Freelance says there is a lot of mis selling of what most do on the course. However SUP_REC will back me up with the fact we have sent applicants on these course who were 16/17 at the time and to be frank didn't have a hope of passing ADSC. Doing either UPSC or the APC gave them the confidence, built up stamina and fitness and helped them prepare to then 6-12 months later get a good pass at ADSC. It works for some on the other hand applicants like Freelancer also said they wasted 2-3 years of there life on these courses where they could of joined the Army earlier. Its on an individual basis really.
 

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