John Reid lands Iraq security job

#1
Sorry, it's the Daily Mail but, if true, then it is relevant. Though we can never take for granted the veracity of Daily Mail pieces.

Former Defence Secretary John Reid has secured a £50,000 job with a private security company operating in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Dr Reid, who famously boasted in 2006 that he expected British forces being sent into Helmand would leave again ‘without a shot being fired’, is to be a consultant to G4S Security Services.

The company provides armed security guards to British Government employees stationed in war-torn countries.
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/...hot-fired-Reids-50-000-Iraq-security-job.html
 
#2
I see he's been misquoted yet again. He said he hoped we'd leave without firing a shot.

He also got quickly kicked out of the job , when it became bloody obvious he did give a sh*t about the boys and girls. Others can confirm or dent, but wasn't Reid the one that got the whole new equipment ball rolling, with his errr 'direct' approach?

This is actually a good thing , if he's the local rep that is, as opposed to a seat on the board. 50K doesn't sound that much more, and possibly even less than some operators get?
 
#3
Contrarian said:
The company provides armed security guards to British Government employees stationed in war-torn countries.
Somehow, I can`t see Reid roughing it in Iraq or Afghan.

G4S plc (formerly Group 4 Securicor, LSE: GFS, OMX: G4S) is the world's largest security services provider. Its services include manned security, operation of criminal justice systems, electronic security systems, and financial services including cash transfer. It is listed on the London Stock Exchange and is a constituent of the FTSE 100 Index.
As a group consultant he will endure "battles of the boardroom" at most. :x
 
#4
50K doesn't sound like a board seat Mac , Ex-MP's make more than that, never mind former Cabinet Ministers.

I think he'll be locally based Mac, and that's a good thing, because the feedback will go all the way back up the chain, he'll be working with Government reps, ours and theirs and no doubt occasionally with our forces if he's going to be on the ground.

And free from the fetters of Government, I think he'll be his old blunt self. An optimistic view I grant you, but it's the 50K thing that makes me think that's what he might be doing.

Anyway, as a Private citizen that reads Arrse Mr. Reid, what will you be doing?
 
#5
my guesses.

1. g4s want access to his address book.
2. they believe he can 'open doors' for them.
3. a 'quid pro quo' for prior arrangements.
4. g4s want to understand labour 'long term defence strategy' if there is such a thing.
 
#7
Maybe I'm missing something here, but although Reid is no longer in the Government, he is still a sitting MP. If he is going to be 'locally based' who is going to be looking after Reid's constituents? Even in current times, when Parliament is increasingly being made irrelevant, I think he might be expected to turn up now and again.
 
#8
Didn't he announce he was stepping down at the next election?
 
#11
muhandis89 said:
G4S recently purchased Armor Group,London to get into the PMC business.
......... and judging from Alastair's recent 'investment' in a Zimbabwe mining concern, other fields as well. :D
 

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#12
Is he stepping down from Celtic board aswell then?
50k is nothing I don't know what they expect to get for that
I would imagine some of Armor Groups guys actuall protecting him would be on at least 100k
Unless there has been a massive wages slash since the take over?
 
#13
I have real trouble with this one. I ought to despise Reid because of his membership of the most mendacious, hypocritical and personally avaricious Government I have seen. However, as SofS, he was probably the best we would ever get from such a Government and he did genuinely care about us. However, as with all Ministers, he proved to be transient and we were lumbered with the next half-wit. Consequently, he joins the very short list of Labour MPs who I afford a grudging respect to, even if I cannot agree with his core philosophy.

At £50K, this sounds like some form of non-exec directorship, based on a number of days per year devoted to the company (and at £50K, that probably equates to about 5 days). He will no doubt go out to Iraq, but I suspect that this will be largely London-based. What do the company get out of it? They get a political bruiser on the staff who, retired MP or not, will still be mixing in his old circles, lobbying for contracts from his old cronies who are in positions to influence Government contracting. He almost certainly knows where many of the skeletons are hidden and will use a mix of threats and bullying to gain advantage for his employer.

That is the way of the world and the reason why so many of our 'socialist' politicians are millionaires (or certainly well on their way). It is disgraceful, but a political career buys you a front row seat at the trough.
 
#14
50k could be a board level seat depending on how many hours he is obliged to do. He might simply attend one meeting a month and have an understanding that he is to introduce the other directors to his political and civil service contacts.
 
#15
PartTimePongo said:
50K doesn't sound like a board seat Mac , Ex-MP's make more than that, never mind former Cabinet Ministers.

I think he'll be locally based Mac, and that's a good thing, because the feedback will go all the way back up the chain, he'll be working with Government reps, ours and theirs and no doubt occasionally with our forces if he's going to be on the ground.

And free from the fetters of Government, I think he'll be his old blunt self. An optimistic view I grant you, but it's the 50K thing that makes me think that's what he might be doing.

Anyway, as a Private citizen that reads Arrse Mr. Reid, what will you be doing?
My musing may not have been explained very well. Dr Reid has served as Home Secretary, Defence Secretary, Health Secretary, Northern Ireland Secretary, Scottish Secretary, Minister of State for Transport and Minister without Portfolio. This adds up to a lot of contacts and a lot of "inside" information from a former government "big hitter".

As a consultant appointed on 17th Dec 08, I believe he will be consulted by the board over pending business moves, and, whilst not being directly involved in these decisions he will have a major influence. At 50K this will be a part time job, although these details have not been released yet.

I do not share your enthusiasm PTP about his views "going all the way back up the chain". The only chain these will go up is G4S, to increase profitability.

He has been employed because of his contacts within government, and he will not alienate these contacts which are the very basis for his employability.
 
#16
50K is peanuts for a business looking for opportunities. Reid has many contacts at MOD and in other governments too, just his ability to open doors is my guess. If he pulls a $5million contract he will have more than paid for the investment in himself.

Before we start to drip praise on him, he was defence secretary when the deployment to Afghanistan was made, he himself quoted that it was a reconstruction mission and that probably no shots would be fired. If you are looking for someone who ensured that we deployed troops ill equipped for the task then Reid is your man.

He left the job of defense secretary because he cannot stand Brown, Reids background is from the extreme left of the party.
 
#17
Never liked Reid. 12 years in Jockland honed my understanding of what a good Jock is ( many of them, can't be beaten!) and the ones who generated the quote " There's nothing more fascinating than watching a Scotsman on the make." Reid is more than on the make, he makes my iguana look positively sociable.
 
#18
scrofula said:
Never liked Reid. 12 years in Jockland honed my understanding of what a good Jock is ( many of them, can't be beaten!) and the ones who generated the quote " There's nothing more fascinating than watching a Scotsman on the make." Reid is more than on the make, he makes my iguana look positively sociable.
Yep, really on the make - £50k

So much more on the make than that other Scots bloke who got a government department privatised and then made a mint from it. What was his name again - John Minor?
 
#19
Sven, as I am sure you well know, it is a miracle to find a person who is not a cnut involved in politics. It is positively unheard of to find anyone who isn't a cnut pulling their strings, either. Such is democracy, or any other system for that matter.
 

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