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Jersey Bloke find German bunker in Garden

#1
Seen this on another forum, a bloke heard stories about a german bunker that existed near his house on Jersey after he moved in a few years ago. He started digging this weekend and found rather a lot!

See here for the original thread:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=141&t=543304&i=0

But there is a lot of bull$hit in between his (CY88's) posts, (though some of it is interesting) so he recently compiled all his posts and piccies in a blog here:

http://gardenbunker.blogspot.com/&i=0
 
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#2
He could have had it cleared by Plod if only he'd had the foresight to spread a few kiddies teeth about the garden.
 
#6
LancePrivateJones said:
It seems some SMLE's were found in there.
Strange for a German bunker.
Not really. What do you think the British troops who the Germans captured it from were issued with?

The Hun would have just tucked them away. Probably a couple of Bavarians had hoped to take them home as trophies.
 
#7
Jersey and Guernsey were not defended by the UK: there were no British forces on the islands when the Germans invaded and began their occupation.

Hence no British rifles would have been able to have been captured locally. Also before the Germans began building bunkers the islands had no defences.
 

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#8
EX_STAB said:
LancePrivateJones said:
It seems some SMLE's were found in there.
Strange for a German bunker.
Not really. What do you think the British troops who the Germans captured it from were issued with?

The Hun would have just tucked them away. Probably a couple of Bavarians had hoped to take them home as trophies.
Fair point EX_STAB.
Mongness meter is running high,will turn it down.
 
#9
bensonby said:
Seen this on another forum, a bloke heard stories about a german bunker that existed near his house on Jersey after he moved in a few years ago. He started digging this weekend and found rather a lot!

See here for the original thread:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=141&t=543304&i=0

But there is a lot of bull$hit in between his (CY88's) posts, (though some of it is interesting) so he recently compiled all his posts and piccies in a blog here:

http://gardenbunker.blogspot.com/&i=0
Edited for mongness...
 
#10
Dread said:
Jersey and Guernsey were not defended by the UK: there were no British forces on the islands when the Germans invaded and began their occupation.

Hence no British rifles would have been able to have been captured locally. Also before the Germans began building bunkers the islands had no defences.
Maybe it was SS walts pretending to be the Home Guard on their days off.
 
#12
The SMLEs were probably already destroyed before the Germans dumped them there: oiled rifle wood tends not to rot away readily, but more significantly, there are several large pieces of metal missing that would have been in situ if they had been complete rifles - the bolts, nosecaps, triggerguards, rearsight protectors and stock bands.

In fact the condition of the rifles suggests they had their bolts thrown away and were then burnt - so i expect they were destroyed by whoever had them (Army, TA, Police, RN, RAF, etc) at the time of the German landings.
 
#13
4(T) said:
The SMLEs were probably already destroyed before the Germans dumped them there: oiled rifle wood tends not to rot away readily, but more significantly, there are several large pieces of metal missing that would have been in situ if they had been complete rifles - the bolts, nosecaps, triggerguards, rearsight protectors and stock bands.

In fact the condition of the rifles suggests they had their bolts thrown away and were then burnt - so i expect they were destroyed by whoever had them (Army, TA, Police, RN, RAF, etc) at the time of the German landings.
Yes,the fact that they are No 1s and not No 4s puts them into the invasion timescale perfectly.
Still,as the island was de-militarised and evacuated at a time when all weapons in the UK were at a premium,it still makes their presence a little strange to me.
 
#16
LancePrivateJones said:
Yes,the fact that they are No 1s and not No 4s puts them into the invasion timescale perfectly.
Still,as the island was de-militarised and evacuated at a time when all weapons in the UK were at a premium,it still makes their presence a little strange to me.
De-militarised and evacuated ... yes.
However, it is perfectly possible that rifles belonging to the Royal Jersey Militia were in Parish Arsenals and were not "repatriated" when the British Forces withdrew. IMO ... an interesting topic, I shall sniff around that one.
 
#17
blue_sophist said:
LancePrivateJones said:
Yes,the fact that they are No 1s and not No 4s puts them into the invasion timescale perfectly.
Still,as the island was de-militarised and evacuated at a time when all weapons in the UK were at a premium,it still makes their presence a little strange to me.
De-militarised and evacuated ... yes.
However, it is perfectly possible that rifles belonging to the Royal Jersey Militia were in Parish Arsenals and were not "repatriated" when the British Forces withdrew. IMO ... an interesting topic, I shall sniff around that one.
Very large numbers of No1s were privately owned in the inter-war years; Jersey and the other islands all had thriving target shooting clubs. Quite possible these belonged to a local civilian.
 
#18
4(T) said:
blue_sophist said:
LancePrivateJones said:
Yes,the fact that they are No 1s and not No 4s puts them into the invasion timescale perfectly.
Still,as the island was de-militarised and evacuated at a time when all weapons in the UK were at a premium,it still makes their presence a little strange to me.
De-militarised and evacuated ... yes.
However, it is perfectly possible that rifles belonging to the Royal Jersey Militia were in Parish Arsenals and were not "repatriated" when the British Forces withdrew. IMO ... an interesting topic, I shall sniff around that one.
Very large numbers of No1s were privately owned in the inter-war years; Jersey and the other islands all had thriving target shooting clubs. Quite possible these belonged to a local civilian.
Somebody else mentioned this but I suppose the clue might be in the fact that the rifles were discovered sans bolts.
 

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