Japan could have Afghanistan role

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  1. There is an interesting article on the following thread=

    Thread = Afghan fighting - the latest reports. Thread page 322.

    Aticle from = The National Post

    Article title = Japan could have Afghanistan role
  2. If they will be as productive as they were in Muthana on Telic, then to be honest not worth having them there. They just created more FP issues as they were under orders not to open fire as they were on reconstruction duties, therefore everybody else picked up their FP for them.
    Hopefully though, they will be there with relaxed RoE as they can be nasty little fcukers when they want to be.
  3. Their Constitution does not allow them to deploy anything even remotly like an offensive force out side Japan. That's why they had little self defence in Iraq.

    Thank the Yanks for putting that clause in there for them. Seemed like a good idea at the time. They do make very good troops though, so maybe a change might help, it's being called for in Japan anyway.
  4. Up to the point where they capture you at any rate.

    There were moves under the last PM to overturn the pacifist part of the Constitution but that seems to have gone on the back burner for a bit (albeit in a very 'EU Constitution' manner). The main driving force was a very nationalist interpretation of Japanese interests from Shinto Abe's party. It had people sitting up in alarm all over Asia and for damn good reason. You have no idea the level of paranoia that Koreans and Chinese in particular have about a militarily resurgent Japan.

    Look out for all kinds of political pressure on ISAF not to use Japanese combat troops.
  5. Thats history though. They may have made things very difficult for themselves with their actions in the past, but they should have a chance to redeem them selves.

    Lets not forget that they fought on our side in WW1 and had such a good reputation with German troops they captured that many stayed in the country after the war. Which is why there are Stainhouses in Japanesse cities (which look odd).

    That have one of the highest rates of military spending in the world and I'm sure if they were providing CAS in the Stan the lads wouldn't mind if they were Jap, Yank or Brit.
  6. Agree. The Chinese has some sort of complex over the japs - not helped by the japs refusal to properly acknowledge history.
  7. I agree but realistiically speaking, the Chinese really are pushing the anti-jap paranoia perhaps in part to distract attention from how sh it they actually are.
  8. If they beheaded a few Taliban POWs it would the morale of the allies a load of good.
  9. OldSnowy

    OldSnowy LE Moderator Book Reviewer

    In Iraq, their ROEs were so strict that on occasion they would not return fire as they would have got into trouble. And as for their problems with the Dutch, these are best left alone.

    Still, they did hve very good kit indeed, very nice nurses, massage chairs, Tea ceremonies, and the most vile Manga/Hentai porn I have ever seen (and that's saying something).

    Oh, and of course, bloody ginormous pots of money to spend on reconstruction. given the state of Afghani infrastructure, they are to be very much welcomed. On the other hand, as Afghanistan has a) no Oil, and b) a land border with China, I can't see them setting foot in the place :)
  10. Border, smorder. Bring em in!!
  11. Could China not play a role in Afghanistan? They have plenty of troops and a land border (all-be it small). If they had decent ROE they could help (in theory), particularly if they was used to "hold ground" rather than capture it.

    I doubt that this is possible but should be worthy of consideration.
  12. Personally, I'd like to see the Chinese getting out into the world a bit more. I certainly think they could do a lot of good - outside their own borders, at any rate - and the PLA/PAP have gained themselves a good rep in their other overseas deployments (Sudan, Haiti, etc.)

    I doubt very much it will happen, though. For one thing they and the Yanks will never cooperate in combat ops as the fear of espionage is too great on both sides. Also, despite what you might hear, the Chinese as a whole aren't really that bothered about what a bunch of foreigners get up to. If us non-Chinese want to go about slaughtering each other in AFG, that's our business as far as they're concerned. They're not going to risk people's only sons if it ain't immediately in their national interest.
  13. Why are you trying to get people onto the Afghan thread? Just post the article here as well...
  14. That means I have to do it twice and of course there are lots of other good articles on the thread which are of great interest. It seems that there is a good chance that extra British troops will deploy next year and of course the thread is a good source of pre deployment information so the interest should be in the thread!
  15. I'm a big fan of the Afghan thread, but it's a ballsache to go sifting through the forums to find the discussion topic.