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Jailed for life is against your 'uman rights

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Whole-Life Inmates Win Human Rights Victory Up some of Britain's most notorious killers for life without any prospect of release is a breach of their human rights, European judges have ruled.Murderer Jeremy Bamber is among those facing a review of their whole-life tariffs after winning an appeal in the Grand Chamber of the European Court of Human Rights that the sentences were inhuman and degrading.In a blow for the UK courts, the judges found that for a life sentence to remain compatible with the European Convention on Human Rights there had to be both a possibility of release and a possibility of review.....look forward to killers being freed by limp wrist judges
 
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maybe, just maybe, one day the victims family's and their feelings with be taken into consideration, but I dought it.
 

sup rec

LE
Book Reviewer
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I know that the European Court of human Rights have done some good for some Brits as well, but this is becoming a farce. We can't kick out known terrorists and now can't jail murderers for life. Maybe it is time to pull the plug on this aspect of European 'franchise'.
 
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Can we also jail people who type the words 'uman or yuman as they think it has more impact?

Also anyone who pretends to be computer illiterate so they say 'puter.

And gits who type or say Bliar, Call me Dave, Cleggy, 2 Jags etc etc.



People who do so deserve the birch.
 
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The judgement only says that someone can't be jailed for a true life sentence without it being reviewed. The sentence can be reviewed and found to be appropriate.
 

Bouillabaisse

LE
Book Reviewer
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Perhaps we need a new offence - violating another person's right to life. Sentence - 20 years for each year of life the victim would have been expected to live based. Rounded up to whole years (some minimum sentence of 20 years). Then see the courts spin round a punishment for human rights violations rather than murder
 
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Can we also jail people who type the words 'uman or yuman as they think it has more impact?

Also anyone who pretends to be computer illiterate so they say 'puter.

And gits who type or say Bliar, Call me Dave, Cleggy, 2 Jags etc etc.



People who do so deserve the birch.
CallMeDave sums him up completely.. Fifty lashes please.
 
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I wonder if these rulings will be applied in mainland Europe or will it just be us that end up toeing the Euro line.
There are very few places in "old" Europe where a whole life sentence is ever used.
Not so sure about the newer members of the EU club but most places just do 15 years or so and then chuck them in a secure loony bin afterwards if required.
 
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What sticks in my craw is having judges from such fair and enlightened countries such as Serbia , Montenegro and Latvia telling our legal establishment what constitutes human rights .
As others have said , time to duck out of this fARRSE .
 

DieHard

LE
Book Reviewer
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If the death penalty was bought back we wouldnt have to worry about reviews for the worst crimes.


But that is another highly point altogether

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I wonder if these rulings will be applied in mainland Europe or will it just be us that end up toeing the Euro line.
Do most EU countries have "whole life" sentences?

Anyway, IF people had read the article they would have seen that the ruling does not say that being jailed until the day you die has to end, just that it must be "reviewed" every 25 years at the latest.

The other thing is that the issue doesn't lie with the ECtHR or EHCR, but the laws in the UK itself. That's what has to be sorted out, irrespective of the ECHR and ECtHR.
 
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Do most EU countries have "whole life" sentences?

Don't know whether most EU countries would have it or enforce it. Here in Holland there are currently about 30 people with a proper life sentence (or "living death sentence" as they call it). Their only prospect of getting out is by royal pardon and that has happened only once since 1970. You have to be beyond terminally ill and the release shouldn't cause unrest in society.

There are various ways to keep someone imprisonned for the rest of his life. A 20 year setence for an 80-year old will pretty much mean life, or (as has been suggested) they end up in the loony area where their case is reviewed yearly.
 
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All they've won is the right to have the case reviewed, the review doesn't have to release them. Prisoners were entitled to a review until the early 2000s, but some grandstanding Labour Home Secretary, IIRC, removed it to show how 'tough' he was.

In the years before the removal of the right to a review, no whole-lifers had been released as the result of one.
 

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