Jail or deportation ?

How do we deal with foreign drug smugglers ?

  • Drain their blood for transfusions till they ask for an airticket

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  • Swap them for Brits held abroad

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  • Keep them in jail, deport them once sentence served

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  • Jail them, then re-settle here.

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  • None of the above: I say we.....

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Goatman

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#1
Check this out:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/-/1/hi/uk/4261934.stm

The number of Nigerian women on drugs charges in UK jails has risen almost sixfold in three years, figures supplied to the BBC News website show.

On 30 June this year 85 of the 151 Nigerian women in custody in the UK were being held for drugs offences. In 2002 there were just 15 out of 29.

The Home Office data also shows a rise among women from Trinidad and Tobago.

Foreign women make up 18% of the female prison population and about 60% of them are held on drugs offences.
Why the hell can't we simply extradite these people to their country of origin ?

Le Chevre
 
#2
Did you catch the US law officer on the Today Programme a couple of weeks ago? Had a Zero Tolerance thing for all his clients and imposed a pretty damn Draconian regime on those who ended up in his nick. He also did so at the minimum cost to the tax payer. I'm not advocating this for home-grown villains (the need to rehabilitate and all that guff) but as a deterrant to incoming bod boys and girls it has much to commend it....... not too sure on the Pa-in-Law's addition suggestion that they should be branded.....oh, I dunno.......
 
#3
It would be cheaper for the government to supply training or education in Nigeria and somehow make jobs available there - these women must be completely desperate to swallow bags of coke which could burst en route and kill them

oh and it would be deportation Goatman - not extradition
 
#4
If all drugs, and I mean ALL drugs were made legal, this subject wouldn't be appearing in ARRSE!

MsG
 
#5
Bugsy7 said:
If all drugs, and I mean ALL drugs were made legal, this subject wouldn't be appearing in ARRSE!

MsG

your point being?
 

Goatman

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#6
Poppy said:
oh and it would be deportation Goatman - not extradition
I stand corrected Pops thank you....BTW, are you wearing your corrective outfit? ....the boots always do it for me :cool:
 
#7
All dealers, not just forign ones, should be put in camps and used for medical experiments/organ donations.
I don't see why we should torture animals in the name of progress when we have an almost unlimited supply of drug dealers, nonces, chavs etc.
 
#8
Why use a perfectly good fox for hunting, we could any number of c*nts for this purpose, starting with drug dealers, illegal immigrants, chavs, pikies........
 
#9
Poppy said:
It would be cheaper for the government to supply training or education in Nigeria and somehow make jobs available there - these women must be completely desperate to swallow bags of coke which could burst en route and kill them
It would be far cheaper to nail a spike through their temples when they are caught. It would also solve their "desperation" problem. They are fcuking scum who are ruining other peoples lives for financial gain.

Kill them all.
 
#10
Chop their fcuking hands off for minor dealing offences. If it's anything more they should be hanged.

And any pinkos who reckon this contravenes their human rights is welcome to come round my house while I explain a few things to them and give them a tour of my neighbourhood and show them exactly what drugs does to a community.

Drug dealers are the lowest form of life. Even lower than politicians, journalists and pinko lefties.
 

Goatman

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#11
hmmm....I always worry that I'm turning into a rabid, foaming at the mouth floggem,birchem then hangem Toryboy type in my old age......it seems from some of the ...er....more florid comments above that I'm in good company 8-O


The thing that gets my goat is that these poor innocent Nigerian ladies are costing us a fortune to keep in Holloway when they could be gainfully employed turning large rocks into smaller rocks in their own country. ....but then I'm guessing that Nigeria has a slightly less cuddly attitude to drug smugglers than we do....anybody know what the sentence is they would have received for arriving in Lagos ( or indeed Kano) stuffed with cocaine ?

Le Chevre
 
#12
doubt there much of demand for drugs in nigeria 6 months in jail and kick them out either the news is getting through back home or they don't care
or they have little choice keeping them at the state expense is a waste of cash
 
#13
Goatman said:
hmmm....I always worry that I'm turning into a rabid, foaming at the mouth floggem,birchem then hangem Toryboy type in my old age......it seems from some of the ...er....more florid comments above that I'm in good company 8-O
What's the matter Goaty? It makes sense to me. It's simple psychology: people won't do it if the benefits do not outweigh the disadvantages of being caught.

I mean, what is to actually stop me going out and mugging an old lady? I could use some money for a good night out on the lash. I've no previous convictions, not even a formal caution. So, if I go and mug an old lady I could have a great night out on the lash. And even if I get caught, and even if there is enough evidence to convict me, all I have to do is hang my head in court and get my lawyer to say it was totally out of character and I get a suspended or community sentence.

So although my own personal integrity and sense of right and wrong stops me from committing crime, is there any external factor dissuading me from going out and doing it? No.

Now, if the penalty for mugging an old lady was to get beaten to within an inch of your life, that WOULD be a serious incentive to behave. And if the penalty for drug dealing was death, I am sure there would be a lot less people doing that. And even if it didn't reduce the immediate offending statistics, it would certainly reduce the chance of anyone re-offending.

For the record, I don't consider this to be Far Right. I just can't believe how far Left the Centre has gone.
 
#14
Simple economics, as Bits said: The benefit of crime should be much less than the effect of the punishment multiplied by the probablity of being caught. That means either imposing draconian punishments or massively reinforcing the police. Of course, the latter option costs money, something HMG never seems to like spending outside themselves or headline-grabbing "initiatives". So I imagine NA will either do nothing or start leaning on the judge to impose harsher sentences.
 
#15
Would a fcuk-off big catapult strategically placed at Land's End be out of the question?
 
#16
Provided it's not too big or aimed too far away from due west (they land on solid ground and you just know they'll get packed straight back here), can't ee a problem. Can't make the catapult too small either though, or they'll land within swimming distance.
 
#17
Unfortunately there's no garantee that they would serve any sort of punishment if they were deported. By punishing them here and then deporting them it does act as a hell of a deterrent. Thats why the flow of drug mules from the caribbean has reduced greatly and the drug suppliers have switched to countries like Nigeria. Unfortunately most of the people carrying these drugs are the poorest wretches, just trying to make some supposedly 'easy money', the real evil b@stards are the ones organising this, and it's rather unlikely that they will be caught and punished.
 
#18
MikeMcc said:
....and it's rather unlikely that they will be caught and punished.
[controversial] Well I, for one, would be happy to volunteer to go and assasinate the buggers. I'd fusking suicide bomb them if I had to.

Can't we get AQ on side for this one? Can't we encourage them to see that the drugs trade is really the work of the devil, and that all the evils in society are feeding off the drugs trade. Surely then we could work with AQ to get the drugs barons knocked off.

[/controversial]
 
#19
MikeMcc said:
Unfortunately there's no garantee that they would serve any sort of punishment if they were deported. By punishing them here and then deporting them it does act as a hell of a deterrent. Thats why the flow of drug mules from the caribbean has reduced greatly and the drug suppliers have switched to countries like Nigeria. Unfortunately most of the people carrying these drugs are the poorest wretches, just trying to make some supposedly 'easy money', the real evil b@stards are the ones organising this, and it's rather unlikely that they will be caught and punished.
No it's not...........................it's Operation Airbrige which found the drugs BEFORE they board the plane which stopped the flow from Jamaica. People that poor will run the risk of prison
 

Goatman

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#20
crabtastic said:
Would a fcuk-off big catapult strategically placed at Land's End be out of the question?
sound....and if we charged punters £3:00 a go to watch, well , we could afford to fund a few drug rehab centres within the first 3 months of operation ...'O' level Physics question....how big would it have to be to send a 9 stone Hausa speaker to New Jersey ? :D
 

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