Its started already

#1
VII rifles have yet to be formed but pictures of Sharpe and co are starting to creep in onto our unit advertising as is RGJ terminology. It seems they do not wish to fade away that easily.
As a result I will now be carrying a picture of Sean Bean in by wallet dressed as the RGJ's (TA) favourite hero, and carry a plastic sword in a scabbard. :D
 
#3
Sharpe was in the Rifles so it is a fair association - also if you look at the Rifles web site you will know that certain Rifle terminology has been adopted such as the name Rifleman instead of private and sword for bayonet, which is quite understandable.

The RRV will become 7th Rifles very soon so why not bite the bullet and embrace the change - a unified battalion is stronger than one that is preoccupied with in fighting and suffering from an identity crisis (look at any Londons post and you will understand).

I gather that you are from the RGBW - you must feel overwhelmed by the sheer weight of Jackets in your Bn now, but its only for a few months - you'll all be Riflemen soon and there is nothing finer!

"Whilst in Dublin, I one day saw a corps of the 95th Rifles,

and fell so in love with their smart, dashing and devil-may-care appearance,

that nothing would serve me till I was a Rifleman Myself".

Extracts from 'The Recollection of Rifleman Harris"
 
#4
Already?

It's been happening for years!

(Recoils at the thought of the Queensman CO being made a "Choosen Man", in spite of that phrase meaning something else entirely in the Napoleonic era)
 
#5
This wasn't meant of a dig I've been through so many amalgamations that they're now second nature. We've been working with A&E coys for a number of years without problems - lets hope F&G are at the same standard!!
I can assure you that whatever capbadge I get I'm proud to wear.
 
#6
The-Daddy said:
Sharpe was in the Rifles so it is a fair association
Nonononono, he was in a book,


and a TV series,


he's not real,


he's a fictional character,


made up,


the difference between real life and made up is....


....oh never mind.
 
#7
A RGJ officer many many moons ago gave me a business card in Bosnia, on it was emblazoned the RGJ capbadge and below in italics

The Chosen Men













I have just re-read that and realised how gay that sounds, I would like to point out that I decided to end the relationship on return to blighty, who goes on on tour, stays on tour :wink:
 
#10
Is it true that mad nurse who got sent down for injecting patients to
give him self more work was from e company? I thought the loon was a medic ,but ,someone claims he was with e coy .
You will be assimilated after a while you wont notice the changes trying
not to sober up helps . :D.
As the choice is either become a rifle or hand your kit in .Might as well
wind your neck in :p .The rrv was a stupid idea a battalion with 3 diffrent cap badges and 2 diffrent styles of drill .Surprising it worked at all .I guess the ta will put up with a lot .Better to be in a battalion with one cap badge
even if it is a rifle one imho .
 
#12
Le Buzzer - read the post - "95th Rifles"! not the wannabes who came next


and Bravo Bravo is wrong about F & G - they are both very good companies - something I'm sure you are already finding out.

as for being Rifles - well some of the antecedents of the 2nd Bn the Wessex Regiment were originally Rifle Corps:

Hampshire Volunteer Rifle Corps
Berkshire Rifle Volunteers
Dorsetshire Rifle Volunteers

I know there is a Yoeomanry unit somewhere as well. but you can see its more like coming home than being fostered!
 
#13
Sapukay said:
Bravo_Bravo said:
yater_spoon said:
- lets hope F&G are at the same standard!!
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good god no.
At least F and G actually Rifle Corps (A and E Coy are, of course, Redcoats. The only Rifle Corps in the RRV was now departed 9 (Isle of Wight Rifles) Pl).
Close but, as The-Daddy pointed out, no banana.

You could successfully argue that the OBLI in it's regular guise had a redcoat background but that is not the whole story. A & E Coys began life as part of the locally-raised rifle volunteers. If you look at contemporary pictures every rifle volunteer unit in the south looked like it came from the 'rifles' stable. It was only when the Oxfordshire Rifle Volunteers became the Oxfordshire Light Infantry in 1887 that they started to look like redcoats...and if you really want to talk pedigrees, at least there was a continuous presence in Oxfordshire; the Isle of Wight and Buckinghamshire had no infantry-roled cap badges (they both went RA for a bit) at points after WW2 whatsoever...lineage broken.

It's all in that book the RRV put out last year.
 
#15
"On Operations"? :roll:

A and E Coys come from Colour carrying redcoated 120 steps per minute stock, while Princess Beatrice's come from green jacket/ black facings 140 steps per minute stock.

However, if you want to argue pedigree, the IoW Rifles is a three weeks senior to the 2nd Oxfordshire Volunteers (but 4 months younger than 1st (Oxford University) Oxfordshire Volunteers, now OUOTC).

Seniority of Militia and Volunteers wasn't aligned to the regulars until much later.
 
#16
Buckingham did have an infantry battalion - The Bucks Battalion, attached to the OBLI - and all through their existence they wore Rifle uniforms and kept Rifle drill.
 
#17
Sapukay said:
"On Operations"? :roll:
That's the badger...did it offend you in some way?

Sapukay said:
A and E Coys come from Colour carrying redcoated 120 steps per minute stock, while Princess Beatrice's come from green jacket/ black facings 140 steps per minute stock.
Plain and simple, matey, you're wrong. Sure, they became 'redcoated' and were heavily influenced by them but they started as Rifle Volunteers just like their IoW contemporaries. They didn't become Oxf & Bucks until 1908.

Sapukay said:
However, if you want to argue pedigree, the IoW Rifles is a three weeks senior to the 2nd Oxfordshire Volunteers (but 4 months younger than 1st (Oxford University) Oxfordshire Volunteers, now OUOTC).
I did want to argue pedigree but you are confusing it with seniority – that's different. The point I was trying to make was that the IoW bunch reroled to the Royal Artillery as did the Bucks Bn (sorry The-Daddy but the Bucks Bn really were gunners between 1947 and 1958) and therefore your argument that the IoW Pl have more claim than A & E Coys (who at least have been re-embracing the rifle ethos since 1958 unlike the IoW boys who became Wessexmen) to be 'rifle' orientated is flimsy to say the least.
 
#18
yater_spoon said:
VII rifles have yet to be formed but pictures of Sharpe and co are starting to creep in onto our unit advertising as is RGJ terminology. It seems they do not wish to fade away that easily.
As a result I will now be carrying a picture of Sean Bean in by wallet dressed as the RGJ's (TA) favourite hero, and carry a plastic sword in a scabbard. :D
Yater, do you mean this?

Might this not be corrected if one of the Reading lot got off their arrses and engaged with the matter like the CO has been urging them to do since he arrived?
 
#19
The-Daddy said:
Buckingham did have an infantry battalion - The Bucks Battalion, attached to the OBLI - and all through their existence they wore Rifle uniforms and kept Rifle drill.
The Buckinghamshire Volunteers were raised as a separate Corps to the Oxfordshire Volunteers, neither of which was affiliated to the Oxfordshire Light Infantry (no "and Buckinghamshire" until 1908), or the 35th Royal Bucks Militia, or 51st Oxfordshire Militia.

In 1881, the OLI absorbed both the militia and volunteers of these two counties into its Corps:

OLI circa 1881
1st Bn (from 43rd LI)
2nd Bn (from 52nd LI)
3rd Bn (from 35th Militia)
4th Bn (from 51st Militia)
1st Vol Bn (from 1st (Oxford University) Oxfordshire Volunteers) - later OUOTC
2nd Vol Bn (from 2nd Oxfordshire Volunteers) - later 4th* Bn, OBLI -> A Coy RRV
3rd Vol Bn (from 1st Buckinghamshire Volunteers) - later 5th, or Buckinghamshire Bn, OBLI -> E Coy, RRV
4th Vol Bn (from 2nd (Eton College) Buckinghamshire Volunteers) - later Eton College CCF

* As in 1908 when the Vol Bns were brought into the Line (as the Militia was in 1881), the two Militia Bns were amalgamated as the 3rd Bn, OBLI.