Its a bit like a "5.56 vs 7.62" question, but not...

Discussion in 'Shooting, Hunting and Fishing' started by Yeoman_dai, Jun 19, 2010.

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  1. Yeah, well, i'm curious - .177, or .22 in an air rifle. I've decided on the rifle already, 12 ft/ibs Air Arms TDR, the question is about the calibre.

    So, which one? My usual game will be pigeon and rabbits, with the occassional corvid.

    So, learned ARRSE shooters, advice welcome!
  2. Same difference seen as all air weapons in the UK are limited to 12 FtLbs.

    .22 not as flat but more impact, .177 flatter trajectory less impact and longer range so good for target shooting.

    .177 not recommended for vermin kill as it probably won't at range (for an air rifle).

    Air Arms is an excellent choice by the way. I have 2 that should be looked after a lot better than I do but they never fail to be reliable and accurate. One of them is a .22 lever, one is a .177 gas operated and both have to be aimed in totally different ways due to the totally different characteristics of the pellets.

    Unless you go on the internet of course and buy the bits from the US that jack the power up to FAC level, which all Air Arms rifles can be due to them being built for the US market as well.

    But that would be naughty and illegal and if a Policeman ever turned up with a chronograph, you would go to jail.
  3. There are a few .20's kicking around, which is supposed to be a nice compramise between the better accuracy of .177 and the impact of a .22.... Pellets are a bit more expensive though!
  4. .22 would be my preference. I take it you are not allowed to use a firearm?

  5. A lot of the experts seem to use .177 and a heavy-ish pellet, but I don't think there's that much in it at UK legal power levels.

    Try looking at this site (and perhaps asking them, if there isn't 200 other threads doing the same):
  6. Porridge_gun

    Porridge_gun LE Good Egg (charities)

    Air guns are for girls
  7. if you can shoot .177 if you cant stick with the rest of the sheep and get a .22

  8. I have a Shotgun license and i'm squared away on that front - I've felt the urge to spend some hard earned on a airgun as it is more suitable sometimes than a firearm.

    Long term plan is, when i've sorted my life out to get a FAC and then upgrade the rifle to FAC standards... which is why i'm currently thinking .22
  9. Both .177 & .22 will kill airgun quarry at airgun ranges, it's all about putting the pellet into the kill zone.

    I have an AA S510 in .177 that I use for rabbits and pigeons and a FX Verminator in .22 for rats and ferrals.

    One point about upgrading your TDR to FAC. I believe you will only get up to 20 shots (maybe less). Should be ok for a general rabbit hunt but for lamping or ratting you may find that it is not enough (cue having to take your bottle/pump with you to refill).


  10. .177 You need penetration and in this case the 177 will penetrate better and have a slightly flatter trajectory. I think I wrote something up on arrse on the topic before once.
  11. "Long term plan is, when i've sorted my life out to get a FAC and then upgrade the rifle to FAC standards... which is why i'm currently thinking .22"

    Well, .22 calibre would be best placed for future upgrade to a FAC standard rifle. As long as the frame etc could cope with the boost in pressures that would entail.

  12. If you are getting an FAC just buy a .22 rimfire. It does what an air rifle does but with a lot less effort and with much better performance all round.

    Only reasons for using an FAC air rifle would be very specialist jobs such as shooting out pigeons in tall warehouses etc. Even then, CB/ BB caps etc for .22 rimfire are available.
  13. Cutaway

    Cutaway LE Reviewer

    And the weekend prize for not reading the post goes to...
  14. Stowage of ammunition may be a problem - I would think you need the mother and father of all gun-safes if you are keeping rounds at home. If kept in a gun-club, there is the problem of going to the trouble of fetching them and transporting them to wherever one is doing the shooting.

    IMHO, PC Plod will be cracking down heavily on this issue after Derek Bird went on his shooting spree in Cumbria.

    Pellets for air-rifles are a tad less risky for home storage, I think.

  15. Nurse! Nurse!