Italians sort out an immigration problem

#2
I'm not holding my breath waiting for Brooon to exercise some common sense and follow suit.
Good drills by the italians, more to come I think if they are this fired up.


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#3
civvygit said:
Italians rush through emergency legislation after high profile murder.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/italy/story/0,,2204527,00.html
I can not agree with this knee jerk reaction. However governments need to understand that unless "society" is protected and commom sence over immigration, law and order and all the other key policies become the norm, then there is a real risk of spiralling into some form of facist state. It will happen here unless things change. A sad day for Italy.
 
#4
The prefect of Rome, Carlo Mosca, said: "I shall sign the first expulsion orders straightaway. A hard line is needed because, faced with animals, the only way to react is with maximum severity."


I wonder when their ovens are turning up from Germany?
 
#7
WhiteHorse said:
I can not agree with this knee jerk reaction. However governments need to understand that unless "society" is protected and commom sence over immigration, law and order and all the other key policies become the norm, then there is a real risk of spiralling into some form of facist state. It will happen here unless things change. A sad day for Italy.
I envisioned you as a pinko commie subversive when I read your comments WhiteHorse. But having read the Guardian article, I agree with you.

This comment caught my eye:-

A decree published yesterday which took effect immediately empowered prefects to order the removal from Italy of EU citizens judged to pose a threat to law and order.
How can this be legal? I thought EU citizens could reside in any EU country. This was one of the reasons giving for not deporting the Italian scrote who has just been parolled after serving time for murdering his headmaster. If the Italians can deport EU nationals, why can't we?
 
#9
This is an Italian Knee jerk reaction.

Yes there is film of Police cutting down the Romanian camp sites and also a few might be deported .

Then by Monday it will be calm and no body will bother anymore.

The Law has been made and it so justice has been seen to have been carried out- it won't be maintained though.
 
#10
Why did they allow a shanty town to exsist in the first place ?If there is a job we need people to do let them in .And I am sure we can give asylum to some (Particulary if they go on to form the new government when the old one gets overthrown bae needs the exports :twisted: )
But letting people who were living in a shithole move here to live on the streets just seems cruel .
 
#11
Ancient_Mariner said:
WhiteHorse said:
I can not agree with this knee jerk reaction. However governments need to understand that unless "society" is protected and commom sence over immigration, law and order and all the other key policies become the norm, then there is a real risk of spiralling into some form of facist state. It will happen here unless things change. A sad day for Italy.
I envisioned you as a pinko commie subversive when I read your comments WhiteHorse. But having read the Guardian article, I agree with you.

This comment caught my eye:-

A decree published yesterday which took effect immediately empowered prefects to order the removal from Italy of EU citizens judged to pose a threat to law and order.
How can this be legal? I thought EU citizens could reside in any EU country. This was one of the reasons giving for not deporting the Italian scrote who has just been parolled after serving time for murdering his headmaster. If the Italians can deport EU nationals, why can't we?
Possibly because we're the only buggers dumb enough to actually enforce and obey every single piece of EU law, regardless of it's effect on the UK.
 
#12
woody said:
And I am sure we can give asylum to some
Indeed. Where do you think the deported Romanians will head to next? We'll no doubt find ourselves granting 'asylum' to other EU citizens.
 
#13
old_bloke said:
This is an Italian Knee jerk reaction.

Yes there is film of Police cutting down the Romanian camp sites and also a few might be deported .

Then by Monday it will be calm and no body will bother anymore.

The Law has been made and it so justice has been seen to have been carried out- it won't be maintained though.
You should not confuse Italy with Britain. We wouldn't because we are so used to gesture politics. This is a good stick to distract people from their latest government change.

Tough on Crime Tough on the Romanians? :roll:
 
#14
Why are so many people AGAINST the meaningful punishment of wrong-doers?

I agree with the poster who hopes the European Soviet Union IMPLODES.

If a British politician had the guts to declare that he, or she, would really punish crime, and, ignore the limp-wristed pleas for mercy, and, AND, declare that the EU would be binned, they would walk into government.

Sadly, since Mrs. Thatcher, we have not had a British politico with balls!
 
#16
Plenty of countries simply ignore or fail to implement inconvenient or downright stupid EU laws and directives - and get away with it.

It's robotic lab rats of politicians and civil servants in Britain who enforce foreign decrees no matter what.

The Italians couldn't care less if deporting foreign undesirables contravenes para X: sub section Y: clause 1 of Unjust and Meddlesome EU law #666.

They will do what has to be done and simply ignore any later judgement against them. Fairplay to them.

Even if these deportations are just a bit of short term political expediency and a sop to public anger, it will still prevent a few ordinary people from being victims of preventable crime.
 
#18
Ancient_Mariner said:
woody said:
And I am sure we can give asylum to some
Indeed. Where do you think the deported Romanians will head to next? We'll no doubt find ourselves granting 'asylum' to other EU citizens.
There's an interesting point to ponder; if a nation meets the stringent requirements to become a member of the EU,surely then (in theory) a situation where a one EU country was providing asylum for citizens of another EU member state,would never arise?

Or am I just reading too much into it?
 
#19
Ancient_Mariner said:
woody said:
And I am sure we can give asylum to some
Indeed. Where do you think the deported Romanians will head to next? We'll no doubt find ourselves granting 'asylum' to other EU citizens.[/q uote]
Well I was thinking of non eu nationals .Cant see the point of giving roma asylum as no one in europe likes "stinking theiving gypo scum"
and going to get much the same treatment here unfortunatly.
 
#20
woody said:
Ancient_Mariner said:
woody said:
And I am sure we can give asylum to some
Indeed. Where do you think the deported Romanians will head to next? We'll no doubt find ourselves granting 'asylum' to other EU citizens.[/q uote]
Well I was thinking of non eu nationals .Cant see the point of giving roma asylum as no one in europe likes "stinking theiving gypo scum"
and going to get much the same treatment here unfortunatly.
Didn't the Republic of Ireland recently 'move on' a lot of it's 'traveller' population?, surely they'd welcome the Roma's with open arms? :D
 

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