Italian cruise ship fires on pirates

#1
I didnt think non military people were allowed to have weapons at sea?? :?


"An Italian cruise ship with 1,500 people on board fended off a pirate attack far off the coast of Somalia when its Israeli private security forces exchanged fire with the bandits and drove them away, the commander said Sunday.

Cmdr. Ciro Pinto told Italian state radio that six men in a small white boat approached the Msc Melody and opened fire with automatic weapons Saturday night, but retreated after the Israeli security officers aboard the cruise ship returned fire.

Pinto said pistols were handed out to security staff and they opened fire on the pirates when they tried to clamber up the sides of the ship. "


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1081183.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/26/AR2009042600339.html
 
#2
Dave, the Italians have a very sensible approach to such 'rules'.
 
#5
Times are changing. Everyone should have the right to defend themselves.

I hope the private security forces gave the pirates 'a damned good thrashing'. 8) Maybe it'll make these pirates think twice in future.
 
#6
Better than clay pigeon shooting from the blunt end of the ship. Maybe we could organise some pirate hunts whyere they get stalked and then killed.
 
#7
There are no such rules. International Maritime Organisation frowns upon it. Different nations have different rules when you enter their ports.

For UK registered vessels there is no requirement to even hold a firearms certificate for Section 1 and Section 2 firearms so you can have bolt action rifles, pump action or self loading shotguns, lever action rifles (which are quite fast to operate) 50 cal rifles or even single shot artillery pieces as long as they are only firing solids or canister.

I'd have all of the above.
 

chrisg46

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#8
BBC story says they fired "in the air". Shall we assume the italians tried to shoot the pirates... and missed?

Well done all the same, hopefully more will follow the example.
 

Legs

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#9
dangerousdave said:
I didnt think non military people were allowed to have weapons at sea?? :?
Not being a Legal Eagle or sailor or suchlike, how can you be stopped having weapons when you are in international waters? The only problem would surely be when you dock in a country with strict weapons laws.
 
#10
Legs said:
dangerousdave said:
I didnt think non military people were allowed to have weapons at sea?? :?
Not being a Legal Eagle or sailor or suchlike, how can you be stopped having weapons when you are in international waters? The only problem would surely be when you dock in a country with strict weapons laws.
well, thats my point. all ships have to dock at some point and hence i hear weapons are banned on ships due to different laws around various countries you donut :p lol :D
 

the_boy_syrup

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#11
Why dosen't someone run a couple of Q ships
Nice looking ship pottering about
Pirates approach, sides fall down and a gang of marines and Navy shoot the sh1t out of everything and everyone
Once it's happened a few times they might get the message
 

Legs

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#12
dangerousdave said:
Legs said:
dangerousdave said:
I didnt think non military people were allowed to have weapons at sea?? :?
Not being a Legal Eagle or sailor or suchlike, how can you be stopped having weapons when you are in international waters? The only problem would surely be when you dock in a country with strict weapons laws.
well, thats my point and hence i hear weapons are banned on ships due to different laws around various countries you donut :p lol :D
I'd rather upset some customs bloke than get kidnapped and have my ship taken from me. It can't be that hard to have a concealed, secure weapons storage that the captain can access. If nations don't like ships to have defensive weapons then they should be patrolling the dodgy areas and defending innocent ships from Pirates.


Naive probably, but sometimes the simple option is the best.
 
#14
the_boy_syrup said:
Why dosen't someone run a couple of Q ships
Nice looking ship pottering about
Pirates approach, sides fall down and a gang of marines and Navy shoot the sh1t out of everything and everyone
Once it's happened a few times they might get the message
Shame on you! I mean those poor pirates whose supporters in ZANU Labour will no doubt defend their human rights to rob, rape, pillage and murder at will (at public expense of course). :roll:

No doubt, said pirates will be allowed to live in Britain, given a house, car and as much money as they can waste... whereas the brave and loyal Gurkhas are told to p*ss off. :x
 

the_boy_syrup

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#15
Lesleycape said:
the_boy_syrup said:
Why dosen't someone run a couple of Q ships
Nice looking ship pottering about
Pirates approach, sides fall down and a gang of marines and Navy shoot the sh1t out of everything and everyone
Once it's happened a few times they might get the message
Shame on you! I mean those poor pirates whose supporters in ZANU Labour will no doubt defend their human rights to rob, rape, pillage and murder at will (at public expense of course). :roll:

No doubt, said pirates will be allowed to live in Britain, given a house, car and as much money as they can waste... whereas the brave and loyal Gurkhas are told to p*ss off. :x
They can only get all that if they get onboard the ship (i.e. British "soil")
I propose a couple of .50 Cal's making them into lumps of mince before they get near it

They could even throw some blood into the sea to encourage sharks before the attack
Don't want the wounded swimming for it now do we :wink:
 
#16
This might sound stupid (probably because it is!) but IIRC, .50 cal rifles are technically "Anti-Materiel" weapons rather than "Anti-Personnel" weapons. Surely it should be permissible to blow the shit out of a pirate skiff's engine, and leave them bobbing in open water for some Naval types to collect at their leisure... and if not, balls to the rules and do it anyway!
 
#17
And another great idea... why don't we invite all the dispossessed Gurkhas to live on a cruise ship and then sail it into the pirate-infested area? We could even make our money back by allowing people to gamble on how long it takes the Gurkhas to... err... discourage the pirates!
 
#18
... bobbing in open water for some Naval types to collect...
Surely you mean "bobbing in open water for several weeks until the biggest pirate has eaten all his mates and there's nothing left for him except insanity and a slow lingering death under the blazing sun".

Mwahahahahahahahaha....
 
#19
Magdovus said:
And another great idea... why don't we invite all the dispossessed Gurkhas to live on a cruise ship and then sail it into the pirate-infested area? We could even make our money back by allowing people to gamble on how long it takes the Gurkhas to... err... discourage the pirates!
As long as you get it all on camera :twisted: .

I personally think we should employ some ninjas to defend shipping. Thereby resolving the age old argument.
 
#20
Gubmint_Agent said:
... bobbing in open water for some Naval types to collect...
Surely you mean "bobbing in open water for several weeks until the biggest pirate has eaten all his mates and there's nothing left for him except insanity and a slow lingering death under the blazing sun".

Mwahahahahahahahaha....
Well, if you insist.. :twisted:
 

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