It will take humanity as well as guns to beat the Taliban

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From The Sunday Times
January 4, 2009
It will take humanity as well as guns to beat the Taliban, says General David Petraeus
David Petraeus, the US general who transformed the campaign in Iraq, has been declared the leading public intellectual. The thinking man’s soldier explains the limitations of shooting and killing

Dominic Lawson
Sometimes a man’s appearance can be misleading. This one is about 5ft 9in tall, not especially powerful in build; he has ears that stick out and teeth that seem too big for his mouth and he walks with a slightly asymmetric tilt. Yet this is General David Petraeus, the warrior whose “surge” saved America from a humiliating scuttle out of Iraq and who is now the head of United States Central Command (Centcom).
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article5437950.ece
 
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Do yanks do humanity??
 
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Uk forces need a bit a Humility when speaking about the US forces.
Compare Op Iraqi Feedom to the mess of Northern Ireland today. At least the Yanks weren't on Op. Appeasement. Say what you will about the Americans, at least they turn up in sufficient numbers to do the job.
 
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gennithmedic said:
Say what you will about the Americans, at least they turn up in sufficient numbers to do the job.
They are lucky that they have the troops to supply. We are just a little island if you remember...?
 
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BambiBasher said:
gennithmedic said:
Say what you will about the Americans, at least they turn up in sufficient numbers to do the job.
Badly.
He does seem to have the right idea though and has transformed the situation in Iraq, and is poised to use the same strategy in Afghanistan. Don't knock him too much. He's certainly got more of an idea than his predessessor and his CinC.
 
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gennithmedic said:
The same little island that has kept the world free since about 1815
Only with help of The Prussians.
 
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gennithmedic said:
Prussian help post 1914?
I farked up/ We've been stopping loons since around 1500
Your reply makes no sense what so ever.
Ive just read this in The Booker column(Sunday Telegraph)



The British Army had entered Iraq in 2003 with a reputation as ''the most professional in the world’’. Six years later it will leave, having failed to fulfil any of its allotted tasks and having earned the contempt of the Iraqis and the Americans after one of our most humiliating defeats in history.

The fault for this lies almost entirely with Tony Blair, abetted by one or two very senior military commanders, who failed at any point after the invasion to provide the men and equipment needed to carry out the task to which Blair had vaingloriously agreed. The price paid has been measured partly in the deaths and injuries of our men – but above all it has been in that destruction of the Army’s reputation which will be one of the most painful and lasting legacies of the Blair era.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...4092439/Our-Army-failed-its-test-in-Iraq.html

As the MSM only report on the death of one of our troops, I really don't have a clue what is going on in those sandy places. Do You?
Michael Yon does a decent report on what our troops were going through, Ross Kemp has brought the attention to the British public what The British Forces are doing.
I'm not having a go at you, but surely someone on here can tell me why our whole town turned out for the funeral of a local Grenadier, then you get a report like that. I do not believe in the saying 'Lions led by donkeys' is revalent anymore, but I still don't understand what exactley we are doing over there.
 
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gennithmedic said:
Uk forces need a bit a Humility when speaking about the US forces.
Compare Op Iraqi Feedom to the mess of Northern Ireland today. At least the Yanks weren't on Op. Appeasement. Say what you will about the Americans, at least they turn up in sufficient numbers to do the job.
We had the numbers to do the job in NI unfortunately we also had the US as our strongest critic and a significant source of finance and weapons for the IRA et al, even in a post WTC attack world it is difficult for many Americans to see the white, Christian?, IRA as terrorists.
 
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BigT said:
gennithmedic said:
Uk forces need a bit a Humility when speaking about the US forces.
Compare Op Iraqi Feedom to the mess of Northern Ireland today. At least the Yanks weren't on Op. Appeasement. Say what you will about the Americans, at least they turn up in sufficient numbers to do the job.
We had the numbers to do the job in NI unfortunately we also had the US as our strongest critic and a significant source of finance and weapons for the IRA et al, even in a post WTC attack world it is difficult for many Americans to see the white, Christian?, IRA as terrorists.
:? How many see the Terrorist, White, IRA, as Christian?
 
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trowel said:
BigT said:
gennithmedic said:
Uk forces need a bit a Humility when speaking about the US forces.
Compare Op Iraqi Feedom to the mess of Northern Ireland today. At least the Yanks weren't on Op. Appeasement. Say what you will about the Americans, at least they turn up in sufficient numbers to do the job.
We had the numbers to do the job in NI unfortunately we also had the US as our strongest critic and a significant source of finance and weapons for the IRA et al, even in a post WTC attack world it is difficult for many Americans to see the white, Christian?, IRA as terrorists.
:? How many see the Terrorist, White, IRA, as Christian?
I see what you did there , nice try for a Wha
 

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