It takes one to catch one.

#1
It seems the adage 'it takes one to catch one' is true. :)

MORE than 900 serving police officers and community support officers have a criminal record, including almost 60 who work in Yorkshire, according to official figures made public yesterday.


The statistics show forces across the country employ officers with convictions for burglary, causing death by careless driving, robbery, supplying drugs, forgery and perverting the course of justice.
Almost 1000 PCSOs and police officers have a criminal record - Local stories - Yorkshire Post
 
#2
I suppose in overall comparison with the total numbers, this is a quite small figure. I am surprised though. I would have thought you would need a completely clean slate to be a copper?
 
#3
When I applied thirty odd years ago I had to jump through hoops, record check home visits etc., they even checked my siblings records. that's when I found out my older brother had done time at Colly. I was turned down by that particular force but told it didn't preclude me from applying to other forces.
 
#4
From a Guardian article dated August 2011:

"According to the Home Office police force figures published in March 2011, the UK has over 137,000 police available for duty (excluding transport police)."

So looking at it a certain way...it's not really a big deal.

Am I working out my percentages right? I binned maths when I started my highers.

900 divided by 137,000 x 100 = 0.65

So 0.7% of serving police officers (based on recent figures) have a criminal record for some shady stuff.

0.7% is **** all!

No offense to the Yorkshire Post, I'm sure it's a credible rag, but this is yet another anti-police non story.
 
#6
To be fair, those figures were published in March 2011 and there have been a number of budget and job cuts.

Yeah, the figure doesn't include transport police eith but, trying to play devil's advocate for the outrage seeker, we could be missing a few thousand rozzers since then. L

et's face it though, 0.7% isn't worth batting an eyelid at. If it were 1% or 2% even, I might be willing to show a little bit of concern and shed a tear of outrage for the cause and all that

but

it just looks like another "let's hate the police/teachers/doctors [delete as applicable, add as necessary]" type article and an excuse to terrify the uneducated masses.
 
#7
There's also a few (more often than not, sprogs) who are new to the job and because they are so shit arse convinced they fkn know it all that they go out on the lash, get wankered and get locked up for various CJ and PO offences resulting in FPN's and Misconduct e-mails to the Borough Commander before the Tap Rabbits start looking for you. If you want to keep your job (especially in today's climate) dont act like a prick and put yourself on the line.......Basics really.
 
#8
sprogs will be sprogs

We're all human and as long as these figures don't show that it is, say, a quarter of the national force then I don't think we have anything to worry about.

Rockape, are you a current-serving bobby?
 
#10
I did see a list somewhere of the number of MPs who had some sort of criminal record and out of the 690 I think only about 10 were squeaky clean.

Lead by example or something ?
 
#11
Why do we never have MP-bashing threads?

We have countless threads devoted to calling various public sectors all the bastards under the sun but nothing fully devoted to how much we hate MPs, the swindling fucks.
 
#12
sprogs will be sprogs

We're all human and as long as these figures don't show that it is, say, a quarter of the national force then I don't think we have anything to worry about.

Rockape, are you a current-serving bobby?
Yes bud, almost 17 years now.
 
#13
Yes bud, almost 17 years now.
I put my application in two weeks ago.

But I do have two driving offences (drink driving and driving uninsured) that are spent, which I was stupid enough to end up with when I was about 18. The bloke I was speaking to said they shouldn't be an issue, think I'll be alright?
 
#14
I put my application in two weeks ago.

But I do have two driving offences (drink driving and driving uninsured) that are spent, which I was stupid enough to end up with when I was about 18. The bloke I was speaking to said they shouldn't be an issue, think I'll be alright?
I did'nt think Strathclyde were recruiting at the moment. I heard the only way in is to spend two years as a Special, then transfer to the "regular" police.

I know that the Met told 2,000 recruits who were waiting to begin training that there is no money and they won't be starting until after the Olympics.
 
#16
Just to add to the list:

22 Merseyside Police officers and PCSOs have broken the law - Liverpool Local News - News - Liverpool Echo

Just goes to show you cant trust anyone. I have lost all faith with plod, they are a sinister/shady outfit who do themsleves no favours. I could go on but numerous threads have already been posted regarding many 'i am above the law' antics.
See many traffic police driving past you at 100mph without the blues on for further evidence.
 
#18
@ Werewolf (sorry missed the chance to quote)

Aaah, there's a wee story to that.

My missus' dad happens to be up in the prison service, a lot of his mates are bobbies. He happened to mention to me that somebody's son (one of the coppers boys) was applying because he was more or less prepared and guaranteed to get in and blah de blah. A bit pissed off by that, I mentioned that I was biding my time to put an application in, I was just waiting for them to start recruiting again. Then we carried on eating dinner with him making disapproving comments about me.

Later that night I got a phone call from him.

"Fill in the form and bring it up here tomorrow."

"Eh? What form?"

"Your application form for the police."

"The who?"

"Don't **** me about, bring it up."

No more talk or discussion, I brought it up to the house and gave it to my soon-to-be-mother-in-law. He phoned me the day after that one to tell me that somebody was looking at it. That obviously doesn't mean anything concrete but it has got my hopes up. Maybe he has a mate looking at it and he might be able to do something for me. Even if it means I have to wait a year, as long as the form (which is painstaking to fill in by the way) is there and somebody is aware of it, I'm happy.

It's probably a ploy to get me to join the prison service. I told him I wasn't interested in that a year ago and he wasn't too chuffed.

This will be the second time I've applied to Strathclyde Police, the first time happened when I crashed my car, I immediately got a knock back and was told that if I wanted to I could try again in 5 years time when the conviction was spent. I went to Uni after that figuring that I had no chance.
Its not what you know, but WHO you know still applies today as much as it ever did?
 
#19
Its not what you know, but WHO you know still applies today as much as it ever did?
It really bothered me when I heard that the guy's son had been allowed to apply.

My father-in-law is a good guy, really, and since his daughter is stuck with me he's really just trying to do his best for me. As Werewolf said, the met aren't recruiting till after the olympics. Strathclyde might do the same. But I'm satisfied that the form is filled in and that somebody alegedly is looking at it.
 

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#20
Pfft, I see your burglarizing plod and raise you a still serving convicted pederast. Go figure. (Not me, obviously).
 

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