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  1. Rumsfeld: Bioweapons May Be Hard to Find
    Associated Press
    April 17, 2003

    WASHINGTON - The U.S. military's search for chemical and biological weapons is unlikely to succeed until Iraqis lead American forces to them, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Thursday.

    "I don't think we'll discover anything, myself," Rumsfeld said at a town hall-style meeting with Pentagon employees.

    "I think what will happen is we'll discover people who will tell us where to go find it. It is not like a treasure hunt where you just run around looking everywhere, hoping you find something."

    U.S. troops have found suspicious chemicals and facilities at a number of sites but tests on the materials have proved negative or inconclusive. Eliminating such weapons was a chief reason President Bush gave for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq that began March 20.

    A Defense Department employee asked Rumsfeld what could be done so the United States would not be accused of planting any chemical or biological weapons that might be discovered. Rumsfeld said he believed such charges are likely and there is little the United States can do to avoid it.

    Only in the past few days, Rumsfeld said, have enough weapons searchers arrived in parts of Iraq where U.S. intelligence indicates chemical or biological weapons could be found.

    "The teams have been trained in chain of control, really like a crime scene," he said. "That will not stop certain countries and certain types of people from claiming, inaccurately, that it was planted."

    Appearing with Rumsfeld was Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff, who cautioned against thinking that the fall from power of Saddam Hussein's Baath Party rule means the war is over.

    "I wish I could say that we're winding all this down, but I can't," Myers said.

    In other words, you've checked all the sites that you forced Colin Powell to present as evidence, and you've come up with d1ck.

    "A Defense Department employee asked Rumsfeld what could be done so the United States would not be accused of planting any chemical or biological weapons that might be discovered. Rumsfeld said he believed such charges are likely and there is little the United States can do to avoid it."

    I like that - Spot the politician covering his ass with both hands. What will happen, if they don't discover any weapons? Now it's going to be hard to plant them in the quantities needed to make a conclusive arguement. Meanwhile hans Blix is spitting blood

  2. msr

    msr LE


    Let Blix in and watch him try to find the weapons, wait until they give up, make point about UN being spastic, and then move on the intellingence which has been quietly gathered.

  3. This would be very serious for Bair and our Government PTP.

    Bio and chem weapons is the reason were there, along with the threat Saddam posed. If it's proved that there are no chem or bio wepaons, and that Saddam, as has proved to be the case, didn't even pose a threat to the fecking invading Allies, it will vindicate the anti-war people and those who supported the UN.

    Blairs premiership might well end up untenable, and rightly fecking so.

    Mind you, it will be too late to effect the May 1st elections won't it?  ;)
  4. Msr - In an ideal world, but there are reports that the spooks are offering $1,000,000 for hard information leading to the recovery of WMD's, which implies they're starting to get worried about discovering anything soon.

    A lot of the Iran-Iraq war documentation, and I've no doubt, some pretty explosive stuff therein, went up in smoke, when the library got torched.

    Surely if the Yanks offered $10,000,000 no questions asked etc, then someone would come forward?

    I really don't want our guys and the US casualties to have died for a lie , political expediency or Israeli foreign policy.
  5. We KNOW they have WMD because 17 British companies and many other nations supplied them! If you want an exact breakdown of which companies I'll get it.
    So, anytime we fancy invading any country we first supply them with WMD..good MO..gotta love it ;D
  6. We know they HAD WMD's..

    What we don't know, is if they still HAVE them.

    We know Rumsfeld supplied them, after the CIA "de-classified" (ooooops butterfingers, don't threaten our agency)  documents, fingering Ernst Stavros.
    What we are certain of, is Iraq had a lot of conventional ammunition. One regiment recovered several ISO containers of rifle-calibre ammunition in one town, and the actual weapons recovered, if they had been used by willing opposition, would have meant we'd still be fighting there. That was just ONE location

    I think the coterie of clowns that sent us into this war, which they are now swinging behind the "we liberated the Iraqi people" reason , know that they need to find these weapons soonest, because the media is getting restless, and old Dubbya, doesn't want any awkward questions during his presidential race....
  7. Why don't they just plant some there then? For goodness sakes it would spare us all this pantomime!..what's that? they're already on the case?..Look behind you!! ;D

    A scientist who claimed to have worked in Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons programme for more than a decade has told US officials that Iraq destroyed chemical weapons and biological warfare equipment only days before the war began.

    The scientist led the Americans to a supply of material that proved to be the building blocks of illegal weapons, which he claimed to have buried as evidence of Iraq's illicit weapons programmes, The New York Times said.

    He also said Iraq had secretly sent unconventional weapons and technology to Syria, starting in the mid-1990's, and that more recently Iraq had been co-operating with al-Qaida, the officials told the newspaper.

    A US military team hunting for unconventional weapons in Iraq, the Mobile Exploitation Team Alpha, or MET Alpha, which found the scientist, declined to identify him, saying they feared he might be subject to reprisals.

    Wow, Bush and Blair must think all their Christmases have come at once

    .....The band will now play that perennial favourite "You can believe it if you like"
  9. WMD hunting is turning into a bit of a pantomime

    "There behind you"

    "Oh no there not"

    For Christs sake, get the power and water back on and lets get the hell out of there