It has left the 'weekend warrior’ image far behind and come of age

#2
My best full screw has been on FTRS from 4 PARA with us since Herrick 4. Just got a distinction on senior Brecon as well. Never had a problem with the 4 PARA blokes on Herrick but had a few mongs on Telic 1. To be honest there isn't that much difference between regular and TA Para Regt. Most have bags of operational experience, are all fit and most of them switched on.
 
#3
Wait out for Govt TA good news story come June.
 

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#4
One of the comments underneath is a little off in his facts:
4RGJ and 6LI have been "merged" into fictitious and made-up Battalions like the Wessex Rifles. Why? Who are the Wessex Rifles?
4RGJ went to the Londons, 5 RGJ went to the Royal Rifle Volunteers before rejoining as 7th Battalion, The Rifles. As for 6LI it became part of the Rifle Volunteers (not the same as the RRV) which went on to become 6th Battalion, The Rifles.

The article itself is a good information piece for many of the general public who remain unaware of the contribution in numbers to Regular battalions from the TA. I never encountered any anti-STAB attitudes amongst the lads in battalion, as long as you did your job you were one of the team.
 
#5
"Most noteworthy is that over the past decade, 4 Para has provided more soldiers than any other TA infantry battalion for operations"

I have no reason to dout him but out of curiosity are there figures anywhere (accessable to plebs like myself) of numbers of TA soldiers deployed by unit?
 
#8
So what's basically happening is that the TA is finally, after all these years, able to live up to being a viable Reserve for the Regulars?

Its only taken just over a century.

There is still a long, long way to go, and a lot of mongs need culling before the TA as a whole can accept the admiration of the public en masse, without being heroic by association with the lads who do deploy. The amount of mongs who volunteer for Ops, crayon all over facebook that they're training for Afghan, and then biff at the last moment is still a massive embarrassment.

Kudos to 4 PARA though, thats the way to do it. Good lads.
 
#9
Praetorian, is this just another dig at BB or do you hold us all in such contempt. In every walk of life their are exceptions to any rule. So in your estimation how many of the 32,000 TA troops need to hand there kit in and Fcuk off. Cheers S n O
 
#10
Praetorian, is this just another dig at BB or do you hold us all in such contempt. In every walk of life their are exceptions to any rule. So in your estimation how many of the 32,000 TA troops need to hand there kit in and Fcuk off. Cheers S n O
of the 32,ooo or so stabs, i would bet my bounty that there are more ''dead wood'' regs in the ''real army'' ! than biffs in stab world.......
 
#11
of the 32,ooo or so stabs, i would bet my bounty that there are more ''dead wood'' regs in the ''real army'' ! than biffs in stab world.......
Really? An 8% pass rate for a recent TA PFT might shoot that theory down in flames. Tithead.
 
#12
Praetorian, is this just another dig at BB or do you hold us all in such contempt. In every walk of life their are exceptions to any rule. So in your estimation how many of the 32,000 TA troops need to hand there kit in and Fcuk off. Cheers S n O

If I had to take a swag, I would guess that in a given TA unit, you will find the following:

- 5% on the books, but who have effectively 'left'
- 10% who attend so irregularly as to be ineffective in their role
- 5% who attend regularly, but would leave rather than be compulsorarily mobilised
- 5% who attend regularly, but are non-deployable due to fitness


So maybe around the 25-30% mark?
 
#13
Really? An 8% pass rate for a recent TA PFT might shoot that theory down in flames. Tithead.

prove the quote, your just getting shitty pants at the thought of a STAB doing your job at a fraction of the cost,, wake up, smell the coffe, anyone can lick stamps !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#15
I don't have to prove anything ********. I've worked with stabs on ops and here in UK. Enough ******* said.
run away run away,,,,,,, nasty man calls me nasty names and CANNOT prove his bull shit....
has your photocopyer been a tad premenstral today and you have ink on your pinkys ????
 
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#16
We had a couple of lads from The HAC on Herrick and if they are anything to go by I would happily work with anyone else who came from that unit without a second thought.

The Coy we had from the London regiment on the other hand were pumper than a pump thing, I (luckily) never had to work with them directly but I've heard the same things from several independent and reliable sources. And I bet their armorer wishes they'd done their GPMG weapon handling test somewhere else.

So my own experience and what is written in the article and from what I've heard from others when they've worked with people from The HAC, 4 Para or even the RMR is that the best TA/Reserves seem to be the ones that have to complete more arduous training than the normal line Infantry TA units (for example), would people say this is a fair assessment or have I just not worked with the right amount of TA to make a fair comparison.


P.S. The field hospital on Herrick 6 was a TA unit, though I can't remember which off of the top of my head and they were very good too.
 
#17
We had a couple of lads from The HAC on Herrick and if they are anything to go by I would happily work with anyone else who came from that unit without a second thought.

The Coy we had from the London regiment on the other hand were pumper than a pump thing, I (luckily) never had to work with them directly but I've heard the same things from several independent and reliable sources. And I bet their armorer wishes they'd done their GPMG weapon handling test somewhere else.

So my own experience and what is written in the article and from what I've heard from others when they've worked with people from The HAC, 4 Para or even the RMR is that the best TA/Reserves seem to be the ones that have to complete more arduous training than the normal line Infantry TA units (for example), would people say this is a fair assessment or have I just not worked with the right amount of TA to make a fair comparison.


P.S. The field hospital on Herrick 6 was a TA unit, though I can't remember which off of the top of my head and they were very good too.
AMS ie, fld hosp, are on the the whole staffed by STABS, 5A, i hope you never have to go to one of these estb, but if you have the msfortune to, please fell free to air your views about STABS..............
 
#18
5 A, taking the piss is all part of life and the soliders black humour is great. But if you realy feel this way and your not just winding people up for sport then get some help. Most people laugh with you and I hope you write this stuff with a smile on your face. cheers S n O
 
#19
So what's basically happening is that the TA is finally, after all these years, able to live up to being a viable Reserve for the Regulars?

Its only taken just over a century.

There is still a long, long way to go, and a lot of mongs need culling before the TA as a whole can accept the admiration of the public en masse, without being heroic by association with the lads who do deploy. The amount of mongs who volunteer for Ops, crayon all over facebook that they're training for Afghan, and then biff at the last moment is still a massive embarrassment.

Kudos to 4 PARA though, thats the way to do it. Good lads.
Most of that time, the TA hasn't been trying to be a viable Reserve for the Regulars, it's been an Army in it's own right. It will, indeed, be a long time before the TA as a whole gains the admiration of the public, but probably because, despite providing 10% of the manpower on operations, the TA is only newsworthy when one of its number gets killed. Otherwise, it's the subsidised Regular host unit that's mentioned.
 
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#20
AMS ie, fld hosp, are on the the whole staffed by STABS, 5A, i hope you never have to go to one of these estb, but if you have the msfortune to, please fell free to air your views about STABS..............
I thought that might be the case but wasn't sure, ******* top blokes
 

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